hoppedupandcutdown Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 V4's like a bigger pilot, try your air screws at 1/2 or 1 out until your 27.5 come in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Yes, I see, and agree with that. But with no filter or box/lid and 38° air, it'll bog when you crack those slides.Shit, the post above was in response to loco’s post. Not yours, hoppedup. SorrySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 V4's like a bigger pilot, try your air screws at 1/2 or 1 out until your 27.5 come in.ThanksSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Metal_man_Rob said: Shit, the post above was in response to loco’s post. Not yours, hoppedup. Sorry Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No Problem, I'm following, LOL, but you were tuning, riding, bogging, with no box or filter, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Every motor is different. I wouldn't put too much stock into a generic jetting guide. I would swap needles first. Leave the pilot as you say it idles fine. If the issue persists with the swapped needles, then drop the main jet two sizes and test again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 No Problem, I'm following, LOL, but you were tuning, riding, bogging, with no box or filter, right?No wasn’t riding with no box. Just syncing, setting idle and air mixture. But not riding around and haven’t moved any further than the basic idle and off idle tuning. Only riding I did was to move the bike from right outside the garage to inside the garage and just that amount of load was enough to kill the bike. I figured once I get the sync, idle and air decent, I can do any fine tuning with the air screws once I put the air box back on.After I change the needles I am going to put the box on and then tune (after just syncing with the sync tool). I scoffed at the struggles I have seen here thinking tuning would be a no brainer. No butterfly, no vacuum , no diaphragm... just 3 freaking jets and a slide attached right to the cable.No I’m an asshole. HahaSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Every motor is different. I wouldn't put too much stock into a generic jetting guide. I would swap needles first. Leave the pilot as you say it idles fine. If the issue persists with the swapped needles, then drop the main jet two sizes and test again.Yeah the stock needles are going in now on #3. I do have the 27.5 and 30s coming as well as a main jet kit. After I sync I think I need to do all of the idle and further rev range adjustments with the box on. Sorry for my obvious frustration.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Metal_man_Rob said: No wasn’t riding with no box. Just syncing, setting idle and air mixture. But not riding around and haven’t moved any further than the basic idle and off idle tuning. Only riding I did was to move the bike from right outside the garage to inside the garage and just that amount of load was enough to kill the bike. I figured once I get the sync, idle and air decent, I can do any fine tuning with the air screws once I put the air box back on. After I change the needles I am going to put the box on and then tune (after just syncing with the sync tool). I scoffed at the struggles I have seen here thinking tuning would be a no brainer. No butterfly, no vacuum , no diaphragm... just 3 freaking jets and a slide attached right to the cable. No I’m an asshole. Haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Again, mine does the same with the filter off. I was sure surprised the first time, wouldn't think it'd matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 If you really feel the need to run a lid, I use one of these back when I ran my Banshee in the mud at our local riding spot. Those Toomey 1" vents they recommend for "perfect jetting" per their instructions, are junk. http://store.ehsracing.com/ehsracing_banshee_350_airbox_kit_cover.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Oh, and one more very important thing since you deleted the TORS. Set the throttle stop so the slides do NOT go much above the bore...They will stick at WOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Oh, and one more very important thing since you deleted the TORS. Set the throttle stop so the slides do NOT go much above the bore...They will stick at WOT.Haha... I was just going to post about that. Those needles fit more loosely with their clips and at WOT they don’t escape the dump tube but the sure are close! Lol. Look.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Same issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Same issue?No about you put the tank on. I need to get a small tank for tuning but this works.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal_man_Rob Posted February 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Same issue?Pretty sure I am well in the ballpark now! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Metal_man_Rob said: Pretty sure I am well in the ballpark now! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk So that made a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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