Beat taco Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 I've always mixed R50 in my race gas but accidentally picked up Super Techniplate and noticed it's about $10 less a gallon. Any reason to pay more for R50? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialblend07 Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 OIL IS OIL RUN IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZillaFreak Posted November 29, 2018 Report Share Posted November 29, 2018 Read up on both. http://www.klotzlube.com/techsheets/KL-104 Tech Sheet.pdf http://www.klotzlube.com/techsheets/KL-100 Tech Sheet.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedder Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Don't know where you're located but in our Ohio climate you will get rust formation on the internals with Super Techniplate if it sit's much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesully810 Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Tedder said: Don't know where you're located but in our Ohio climate you will get rust formation on the internals with Super Techniplate if it sit's much. I thought that super tech was better to run in colder weather? Im in michigan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97Screamer Posted November 30, 2018 Report Share Posted November 30, 2018 Oh no, the oil debates have migrated from FB to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keno Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 Pretty sure Super Techniplate doesn't contain rust inhibitors. Not a big deal if you ride often or use fogging oil before long term storage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesully810 Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 i guess ive never really thought of this because ive never had an assembled motor during the winter, but from basically november- march its freaking cold here in MI and it will be sitting in the un heated garage, the inside of the motor can rust?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keno Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 Maybe, Probably not. I'm no expert, but it's been my understanding that some synthetic oils are slightly hygroscopic (absorb moisture). Manufacturers use additives to counteract this. Race oils I guess often contain lesser amounts and are not recommended for long term storage. I'm betting it is a bigger problem in humid climates and in watercraft. Honestly, I would probably run either oil. Contacting Klotz would be the best way to get a definitive answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedder Posted December 1, 2018 Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 Geez, I don't know why I ever bother posting to help others. What I share is first hand factual information and not heresay BS like 80% of what get's posted. And yes - Super Techniplate is hygroscopic that will rust your crank in short order under the right conditions. It doesn't take a full winter of storage. Our race season runs from the end of April through November (usually less) depending on the weather here in Northeast Ohio. We used Klotz Uplon for purging to help with the rusting problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beat taco Posted December 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2018 Thanks for the good info, I did some googling before posting and read about a possible rust issue. Good to hear from someone with first hand experience. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 9:33 PM, Ayesully810 said: i guess ive never really thought of this because ive never had an assembled motor during the winter, but from basically november- march its freaking cold here in MI and it will be sitting in the un heated garage, the inside of the motor can rust?? Yes. Especially when that shed gets some sun on a cold day. Everything starts to condensate. Inside the motor is no exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZillaFreak Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 11/30/2018 at 9:33 PM, Ayesully810 said: i guess ive never really thought of this because ive never had an assembled motor during the winter, but from basically november- march its freaking cold here in MI and it will be sitting in the un heated garage, the inside of the motor can rust?? Yes. Always best to start it up once a week or so just to make sure the insides have oil on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeMachining Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 I oil top of pistons and never start it. I just move the pistons couples of times with kick starter. I think that starting the engine make the problem worst, cause your doing a heat cycle... I base my comment on 40 years of experience with the storage of snowmobiles. Envoyé de mon SM-G965W en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesully810 Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 i put oil in the cylinder per cylmers and kick it over several times once a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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