ride.race.live Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 Not trying to pick your build apart... but there's a lot of places you shouldn't of spent on... if you wouldn't have.. you would of had 2x the banshee with good suspension all around... instead your going to have flashy parts aftermarket plastics with old ass used yfz 450 shocks and untouched oem rear shock Quote
specialblend07 Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 My first banshee I had I raced MX with. It had a stock rear axle and swingarm, stock shock on rear, it did have +2+1 a-arms and TCS shocks. I also ran T5s, it was fun and competitive for the class I was in Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, specialblend07 said: My first banshee I had I raced MX with. It had a stock rear axle and swingarm, stock shock on rear, it did have +2+1 a-arms and TCS shocks. I also ran T5s, it was fun and competitive for the class I was in Right on! How much do TCS shocks run? The YFZ450 shocks i got are a bit longer than stock and offer the adjustability I'm after for a good price. Good for now but eventually will go with better ones. There are a few threads around regarding the topic of running YFZ450 shocks on 2+1 A-Arms. Excited to see how it all turns out with those LSR 2+1's. Quote
ride.race.live Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 99% of the people on here will have nothing good to say about running YFZ shocks.. especially for MX.... The valving of the shocks is way wrong and the geo of the a arms wont work well with the shocks... Like I said in my previous post... if you wouldn't of wasted your money on plastics and "bling" that really has no benefit you could of bought yourself a proper set up.... Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, ride.race.live said: 99% of the people on here will have nothing good to say about running YFZ shocks.. especially for MX.... The valving of the shocks is way wrong and the geo of the a arms wont work well with the shocks... Like I said in my previous post... if you wouldn't of wasted your money on plastics and "bling" that really has no benefit you could of bought yourself a proper set up.... When you say "the geo of the a arms" are you referring to the stock A-Arms or the LSR 2+1's? And sure the plastics and "bling" don't add any performance gains but it will sure look good The vision I have for this bike is long term(ish) and I've got nothin' but time. Quote
ride.race.live Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 the YFZ shocks will not properly perform on EITHER stock arms OR LSR's arms... the shocks where not valved or built to be ran on banshee geometry and a amr geometry.... Sure it will look good but thats about it..... You could of been 2x as fast, half as tired and less chances of eating shit with proper chassis set up.... but instead you rather look cool then have something that actually performs properly.. see what im getting at.... may as well chrome everything and leave it on your trailer because its all show no go Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 Just now, ride.race.live said: the YFZ shocks will not properly perform on EITHER stock arms OR LSR's arms... the shocks where not valved or built to be ran on banshee geometry and a amr geometry.... Sure it will look good but thats about it..... You could of been 2x as fast, half as tired and less chances of eating shit with proper chassis set up.... but instead you rather look cool then have something that actually performs properly.. see what im getting at.... may as well chrome everything and leave it on your trailer because its all show no go lol k Quote
ride.race.live Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 believe me or not... but its well known.. and no one here is going to disagree with me.... #1 mod the banshee needs the most is proper chassis upgrades.. not half ass cobbled up shit.. then people turn around and complain how poorly it handles... it handles like shit stock.. dont make it worse by throwing shit off a entirely different bike on it lol Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, ride.race.live said: believe me or not... but its well known.. and no one here is going to disagree with me.... #1 mod the banshee needs the most is proper chassis upgrades.. not half ass cobbled up shit.. then people turn around and complain how poorly it handles... it handles like shit stock.. dont make it worse by throwing shit off a entirely different bike on it lol Yea I get it. This build had no plans for A-Arms initially lol. Until I found them for cheap hahaha Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Mackington said: Yea I get it. This build had no plans for A-Arms initially lol. Until I found them for cheap hahaha https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0034ZO5PY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Listed as $599 now but got them for less than $500 Quote
specialblend07 Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Mackington said: Right on! How much do TCS shocks run? The YFZ450 shocks i got are a bit longer than stock and offer the adjustability I'm after for a good price. Good for now but eventually will go with better ones. There are a few threads around regarding the topic of running YFZ450 shocks on 2+1 A-Arms. Excited to see how it all turns out with those LSR 2+1's. I bought them used for $250 on ebay. They worked great. I wasn't a pro rider, and I never had them re-valved for me weight. I'm assuming you're not a pro rider and frankly you probably won't notice the difference between that setup and one designed for a banshee. 1 hour ago, ride.race.live said: 99% of the people on here will have nothing good to say about running YFZ shocks.. especially for MX.... The valving of the shocks is way wrong and the geo of the a arms wont work well with the shocks... Like I said in my previous post... if you wouldn't of wasted your money on plastics and "bling" that really has no benefit you could of bought yourself a proper set up.... 99% of the people on here also have probably never ridden MX, or can't out ride the stock suspension. 1 Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, specialblend07 said: I bought them used for $250 on ebay. They worked great. I wasn't a pro rider, and I never had them re-valved for me weight. I'm assuming you're not a pro rider and frankly you probably won't notice the difference between that setup and one designed for a banshee. 99% of the people on here also have probably never ridden MX, or can't out ride the stock suspension. Cool! That's all I want really are shocks with more travel to compensate for the 2+1 LSR's. The adjustability is just a bonus really! For around $250 that's a pretty good deal. Quote
LaegerEliminator Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 ride.race.live speaks truthProper suspension setup and investment is key to making a Banshee rideable if you have any sort of desire to ride aggressively Quote
Mackington Posted September 25, 2017 Author Report Posted September 25, 2017 Since we've boiled this down to shocks, what options do I have? Seems to me any decent setup costs $1500+. All I'm trying to do is have front shocks long enough for these LSR 2+1 A-Arms. I see a pair of Elka 3's can be had for around $1000 but still pricey IMO. The 1 series are cheaper but no reservoirs? PEP has ones that are a little cheaper but not by much. Quote
ZillaFreak Posted September 25, 2017 Report Posted September 25, 2017 Ummm you don't need longer shocks for the +2 arms. Quote
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