registered user Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/5/2017 at 11:26 AM, Micha007 said: That's true and you have no space to fit a electrical fan. I use a 40mm Fluidyne radiator and a electrical water pump. one of these should fit I would think http://www.trailtech.net/digital-gauges/tto/digital-fankit/universal-fan-kit. good decision about the electric waterpump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted June 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 I would not put a fan infront the radiator or a fan period for higher speeds. Plus when riding at fast speeds, a properly working cooling system with upgraded impeller and radiator should be fine. I upgraded everything i could and i know it takes long for my engine to warm up due to the added cooling. I would also take the guts out the stock fuel cap(make sure you dont have a fancy breather on the vent line as well), run billet bowls and a dual pingel just to be safe. Id also have a temp gauge that i can easily see the read out while riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 he said tarmac riding. if that meens track racing then i wouldnt bother with a fan either. if its city driving then for sure a fan and even some ducting around it, if possible 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted June 9, 2017 Report Share Posted June 9, 2017 On 6/7/2017 at 7:44 AM, pp13bnos said: I only wish it was legal to ride on the roads here... some states atv can be liscenced for street use. seems like i seen some in phoenix. ive seen them in other cities also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pp13bnos Posted June 11, 2017 Report Share Posted June 11, 2017 On 6/9/2017 at 0:56 PM, registered user said: some states atv can be liscenced for street use. seems like i seen some in phoenix. ive seen them in other cities also Yeah, my parents snow bird outside of Tuscon every winter, and say there are a ton of SXS out on the roads. I heard awhile ago Washington was allowing quads and SXS to be driven in 35mph and less speed zones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micha007 Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Some days ago I place my order to Tony from TDR, and i think too, it's great to make business with him . My order which list. Mattoon Maschine billet case T-Rex billet mono block cylinders with steel sleeve in 68mm bore - portet to mid range ( takes 3 weeks ) Crankworks +4mm billet crankshaft 10 platte billet clutch basket from Mattoon 10 plate Barnett Kevlar clutch with heavy springs CPI pipe and mufflers for in frame mount TDR anti weld kit for the clutch Matton billet clutch case Chariot 3 peace billet cover for the generator site Reeds and intake ready to fit to my 40mm billet Smartcarbs Think, that's a pretty package Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Way more case, crank, and clutch then any 4mm needs, but should be cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANSHEE HP Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Billet cases, 10 plate clutch for sub 100hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie B Posted January 18, 2018 Report Share Posted January 18, 2018 I own vitos stealth jugs set up from the factory for a 10 mil stroke. They are 2 separate cylinders not mono blocked. I remember the ad read the same "up to 90hp ect". I ran them for fun a couple years. Light switch powerband and not much low end before it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Bumping this for FB folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKEETER Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 And our entertainment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richard Dryden Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 Oddly the first big cylinders got skipped. Superior Sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted June 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 3/3/2019 at 11:55 AM, Guest Richard Dryden said: Oddly the first big cylinders got skipped. Superior Sleeve. If you'd like to share info on them, I'll add it. Most of the info I posted is from a lot of messeging people, builders and shops. Looking at a post on the hq fb group, looks like I need to add chubby cubbys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lufkin Posted August 6, 2020 Report Share Posted August 6, 2020 what year were the cylinders different where the cylinder mates the crankcase..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam187 Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 On 3/22/2017 at 11:12 AM, RagunCajun said: This post will be edited as more information is obtained and/or corrections are needed. This is list of all banshee cylinders in production and obsolete(out of production). If you have anything to add, correct or share; post here or pm me. CP industries Inc: Cheetah Cub: Works with regular heads commonly found on stock bikes like Noss/pro design heads. Typically used for Drag/Dunes due to power coming on higher in rpm range. Uses stock reeds. Usually referred to as a Cub. Bore – 64mm to 68mm Stroke – 54mm to 68mm CC – 347cc to 494cc Serval Cub: Works with regular heads common on trail bikes like Noss/Pro Design heads. Typically used for trails, play bikes, dunes due to power coming on lower and smoother in the rpm range. Can be ported into drag cylinders since there is extra material. Uses stock reeds. Bore – 68mm Stroke – 54mm to 64mm CC – 392cc to 465cc Wampus Cub/Wampus Serval Cub: These are casted externally to be made to look like stock cylinders but they are still monoblock design. It's meant to be a more stealthy look. A knowledgeable person will not be fooled. Uses stock reeds. (The Wampus gets its name from the Cherokee Indian word meaning “Ghost Cat”). Bore – 64.5mm to 68mm Stroke – 54mm to 68mm CC – 358cc to 494cc Super Cub: Bigger bore version of Cheetah Cub. Requires a big bore head and case work. Uses stock reeds. Supers cubs have the option of larger flange exhaust. Large flange is 1.90” stock is like 1.77ish Bore – 72mm Stroke – 54mm to 68mm CC – 440cc to 554cc Super Serval: Bigger bore version of Serval Cub. Requires a big bore head and case work. Uses stock reeds. Supers servals have the option of larger flange exhaust. Large flange is 1.90” stock is like 1.77ish Bore – 72mm Stroke – 54mm to 68mm CC – 440cc to 554cc Super Wampus: Same concept as the Wampus Cub, but for the bigger bore Super Cub and Super Serval Cub. Large flange is 1.90” stock is like 1.77ish Bore: 72mm Stroke: 54mm to 68mm CC: 440cc to 554cc Cheetah:. The cylinders can have power valves. Optional power valves use exhaust pressure to open the the power valves. Typically used for Drag/Dunes. Uses Honda 250R reeds. Bore: 65mm to 74.5mm Stroke 54mm to ? CC: 358cc to ? Cheetah DM: Short for dominate male. Typically used for Drag racing. Usually referred to as a DM. Bore: 72mm/78mm Stroke: 58mm to 78mm CC: 472cc to 611cc Cheetah DMX: Usually used for drag racing/duning. Poor water jacket design. Tend to overheat unless on meth when duning. Usually referred to as a DMX. Bore: 84mm – 85mm Stroke: Cougar: Bore: 85mm Stroke: 76mm Sniper: Similar to the CP Industries Cougar. Exhaust Flange Varies. Will not accept OEM size Flange. Reed cage bolt pattern from a snow mobile. Bore: 85mm ? Stroke: 76mm ? Scimitar: Bore: 95mm Stroke: 76mm Caracal: Bore: 98mm Stroke: 76mm "129mm spread Billet cases (AKA Schimitar cases) are only available with "BIG BEARINGS" (72mm). We offer them in strokes from +20mm to +30mm. These cases were originally deighned for the Ski Doo MXZ 800 cylinders however over time CP Industries has produced a cylinder for these cases called a Schimitar with a massive 95mm bore taking this engine to a hole nother level." This chart applies to all Banshee cylinders(Not just CP Industries). http://i.imgur.com/hoJbpqp.png Bore and stroke are in mm. Engine Size is in cc. Engine size (cc) = (Bore (mm)/20) * (Bore (mm)/20) * (Stroke (mm)/10) * pi * # of cylinders Vitos: Big Bore/392cc: Directly from Vito’s website: Stealth stock appearance sleeved and bore able -10 ports -- with triple exhaust -- up to 90hp at rear tire on race gas- cannot be used with stock heads unless they are custom machined for big bore or use big bore domes ordered separately Bore: 68mm Stroke: 54mm (stock) Athena: Big Bore/392cc: Nickel carbide coating. Needs a lot of work to run well and up to par with most people's expectations. Basically a worse version of Vito’s. Bore: 68mm Stroke: 54 (stock) China Ebay cylinder kits: Can be found for around $165-$250 on ebay. Comes from probably china. You get what you pay for. You can’t expect much for a complete top end(cylinders, gaskets, pistons etc all for that price). Typically seen on the Bansheehq Facebook group from people who don’t listen and/or research. Do not buy this. Common vendor: Mr. Sum Ting Wong. DASA: Info directly from DASA's website: Don't be fooled by the imitators. Dasa is the home of the ORIGINAL Superjet Big Bore Powervalve Cylinder. Dan Lamey has been developing and producing these cylinders for over 15 years. Dasa (Dan Lamey) has a reputation of being the leader in watercraft development. Dasa has helped to create numerous champions such as Nicolas Ruis, Eric Malone, Chris MacClugage, Alessander Lenzi, Tara Lahoe, Jeff Jacobs, Lee Stone, and many more. Dasa Big Bore Powervalve Cylinders are the only cylinders trusted by Factory Yamaha Racing. If Factory Yamaha can trust Dasa to put them on the top of the podium, so can you! Powervalve Cylinder 85mm Pistons Complete Power Valve Assembly Billet Head & Domes All Necessary Hardware, O-Rings, & Gaskets Crankcase Modifications Required Cylinder Porting Included 12mm Stroker Requires Billet Crankcase Driveline Performance: Assassin: Stock appearing cylinder. Nikasil coated. Designed to be used with +4mm long rod stroker crankshaft with 115mm rods. This cylinder kit has higher port timings for riders who are wanting more mid to top end power. The port specs on these cylinders are 196 exhaust and 124 transfer durations. The exhaust port is much larger then a stock cylinder so peak H.P. will be much higher. Bore: 68mm Stroke: 54mm to 64mm Assassin LP: Nikasil bore, triple exhaust ports, larger intake and transfer ports. This cylinder kit has lower port timings for riders who are wanting more mid and low range power bands. The port specs on these cylinders are 191 exhaust and 121.5 transfer durations. The exhaust port is much larger then a stock cylinder so peak H.P. will still be much higher even though the ports are lower durations. Bore: 68mm Stroke: 54mm to 64mm ESR(Eddie Sanders Racing): ESR basically sold pro x cylinders. This per ESR themselves when i emailed them for info. FMF: Powervalved. Mono block design. Bore – ? Stroke – ? CC – ? Twister: Small Block: These cylinders have triple ports and boost ports. Most would consider a dune port. They have plenty material to be tailored how you want. They have a much larger coolant capacity than competitors’ cylinders, and better coolant flow characteristics. They have changeable intake runners and exhaust flanges. You can run stock banshee reeds or YZ250 reeds, and small-bore or big-bore pipes. Equipped with power valves from a Ski-Doo Summit 800. As of December 2011, there have been 4 generations of small block twisters since it was released. They no longer make small block twister cylinders with power valves. Bore: 68mm to 78mm Stroke: 54mm to 64mm Big Block: Use cr125 reed blocks. Bore: ? Stroke: ? Trex: No info found Bore: ? Stroke: ? Stock Cylinders Made by Yamaha that come with the banshee Bore: 64mm Stroke: 54mm General Info Spread: Twins Stock – 102mm Cougar – 120mm Schimitar – 129mm Caracal – 150mm Triple 102mm spread 120mm spread 150mm spread Quad 120mm spread Stroker crank limit of stock cases are 10mil with no expoy. Larger can be done with expoy. For larger than 10mil granks, people usually use Mattoon billet cases. Available crank sizes Stock – 54mm 4mil – 58mm 5mil – 59mm 7mil – 61mm 10mil – 64mm 14mil – 68mm 16mil – 70mm 18mil – 72mm 20mil – 74mm Rod lengths Stock -110mm115mm 120mm 125mm 130mm 132mm 137.5mm Bearing OD Stock – 62mm Big – 72mm last edit 3-23-17 8:25am You have forgot about the LA sleeve Pro cross Niks409 Big Bore kit I have one they have CR250 reads they can be accommodated with power valves however the version I have does not have them they have steel sleeves triple port boysen port and removable exhaust manifolds so you can choose your flange size and interchange it not sure the durations on the transfers and exhaust but they claim bott on 50 horsepower but says depending on hardware used in mechanic that upwards of 75 horsepower can be made which is enough absolute laughable joke because a cub top end probably with stock pipes stock carburetors with more than likely make more power than that but I'm sure it can be massaged to easily put out low 80s mid 80s which is respectable anybody knows where there's parts for these kits message me it's the niks409 la sleeve big bore kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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