got1banshee Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 people talke about 450 is faster than a shee, that may be true. But and a big BUT if you compaire price the shee is the fast bick out there. A 450 is around 6800 at my local dealer and the shee is about 5000 so if you pit 1800 into the stock shee you have two bikes with the same amount of cash in the two. Banshee will kick its ass every time. You spend another 4-5 grand on the 450 and then 4-5 grand on the shee and the 450 is going to get its ass kicked.... Don't you think guys? No facts here just my hypothesis.. Professor Rick haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004LEBanshee Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Screw the 450 it is fast on a track who cares. The fact is, that it's another four stroke that looks like all the other knock off raptors on the market with there pointy plastic and nice shocks. They all drive around sounding the same and trying to bash and prove that they are better than a banshee. If banshee's wernt the shit why try and compare to us all of the time. OK it's fast on a track thats just what most people say to make them feel better that they payed more for the dam thing. Most people dont even ride on a track, and even less ever time there laps. We have the most creative and one of a kind bike and that rocks! Piss on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScreaminShee01 Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 yeah these guys on their tractors need to shut up cuz they will get their ass handed by some banshee.... banshee is always the fastest quad, most moddable... i mean maybe a tricked ds is faster than a stock or piped shee... but somewhere there is a shee that would eat it alive.. correct me if im wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 A banshee will beat a 450 stock for stock. Pretty close, but in the sand, the banshee wins. I am fairly convinced you made this post in a drunken stupor. Stock for stock, I am willing to bet in any condition, that a 450 hands a shee a loss. A hundred yards really ain't no test,especially if you wanna demonstrate how bad you can embarras a machine. Hrmmmm, seems to me that 100 yards, is equal to 300'. By my calculations, that seems to be the distance used in most dirt and sand drags. You can gear a 300EX to go 80 MPH if you wanted to. That would be enough to take a stock shee. The difference would be the time it took to get there. Go long enough, and the EX would eventually win. That is why there is a set distance in a race. If you win past 300', andx at the 300' mark you were losing, you just won on what is called the "loser flyby". I see this alot from the little rice cars when I hand them there ass in a race, I hit the brakes, and they go flying by. it must make them feel good or something. I can imagine the conversation in the car. "yo, Steve-o. Yes Jim Bob? You see me smoke that dude? Yep, you smoked him right there at the end." Same thing must go on in your head when you beat someone after 300'. I ain't talkin a 1/4 mile or the 1/8th here either. That is asphalt, and there is a difference in setup there. You could not take a 1/4 mile bike such as Nyuk's, and dump some paddles on it and expect it to start cleaning house in the sand. Same thing goes for screamin banshee. You can't just throw his bike on the pavement and expect him to run awesome tmes in the 1/4. Point is, you setup for what you will be running. And if you are setup for the long run, and some dude hands you your ass because he is setup for a 300' race, you can't go spouting off about how much you can embarass him in a 1/2 mile race. it just ain't like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted December 24, 2003 Report Share Posted December 24, 2003 Stock for stock, I am willing to bet in any condition, that a 450 hands a shee a loss. thats my conclusion as well..i dont get dirt wheels or any other mag to base my opinion on..but i do have a friend with one and watch him do it all the time, the bike hauls ass its that simple, i watch this guy come up even or even a few feet ahead of piped shee's all the time, specially those geared 14/41, and stock shee's he just creams...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee0044 Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 well heres what i think... a stock banshee against a stoack raptor is pretty damn close..but truthfully i think the raptor wins thats a 660 though..the yfz is only a 450 and theres no way that the 450's power to weight ratio will make it that fast..its only a 450.. i may be wrong and missing something...but this bike really isnt as fast as its boasted about like i said a buddy of mine has one and my basically stock 03' banshee smokes it (really i only have the timing advancer ...i mean thats a hell of a difference but still) my buddy weighs about 170 and im like 210 on the track 450 hands down...but drag racing the banshee is coming out on top.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 well heres what i think...a stock banshee against a stoack raptor is pretty damn close..but truthfully i think the raptor wins thats a 660 though..the yfz is only a 450 and theres no way that the 450's power to weight ratio will make it that fast..its only a 450.. i may be wrong and missing something...but this bike really isnt as fast as its boasted about like i said a buddy of mine has one and my basically stock 03' banshee smokes it (really i only have the timing advancer ...i mean thats a hell of a difference but still) my buddy weighs about 170 and im like 210 on the track 450 hands down...but drag racing the banshee is coming out on top.. the 450 beats a raptor.....your stock banshee must have 20 more horse power than all the other stock banshee's or your buddy cant ride or both..or maybe its your boost bottle..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banshee0044 Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 no way in hell does that 450 beat a raptor in a stock vs. stock drag race..i dont know whos telling you that but wake up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 no way in hell does that 450 beat a raptor in a stock vs. stock drag race..i dont know whos telling you that but wake up im watching it happen....i dont know where your riding, but i can sit and look out my kitchen window and watch quads race, this weekend there will be 40 quads and about 80 two wheelers playing a 1/8 mile from my house so ill just watch and see whos beatin what and you keep reading dirt wheels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
got1banshee Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 no way in hell does that 450 beat a raptor in a stock vs. stock drag race..i dont know whos telling you that but wake up Next think you going to tell up is that your boost bottle gave you and extra 5 hp and that you are doing wheelies at 75mph in 6th gear!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2004LEBanshee Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Go to www.yfzcentral.com and they have 2 videos of a raptor vs. a Yfz450. They each one once buy maybe a bike length. This is on their own dam site. All of the riders there say that in a short race it wins but race a little longer it gets beat by the raptor. But somehow it smokes a banshee . Beat maybe but smoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted December 25, 2003 Report Share Posted December 25, 2003 Go to www.yfzcentral.com and they have 2 videos of a raptor vs. a Yfz450. They each one once buy maybe a bike length. This is on their own dam site. All of the riders there say that in a short race it wins but race a little longer it gets beat by the raptor. But somehow it smokes a banshee . Beat maybe but smoke? stock banshee isnt quite known for hookin up all that good, once a bike gets 20 feet in front of you its hard to pull him back in...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tats4life Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 My 2 cents in all this is. There's an up and coming kid here in town that sent his 450f to DR and Loren did his mx work on the cylinder and head. I raced his duncan 450f to duncan shee and I geared my 16/39 and he ran what ever loren told him to. 4 out of 5 races i beat him by a bike or a bike and a half. The last race I gave him two bikes. I was on his back tires in 6th but couldn't pull him in. We ran an 1/8 all 5 times. All the guys here in town that ride stock ones go play in the mud and trail ride. But I've ridden more stock 450f and shee's breakin the motors in for customers than I can count. A STOCK yzf450 will out run a STOCK shee all day long. I mean by stock is go buy it and race it. Nothin else done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Duece Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 A STOCK yzf450 will out run a STOCK shee all day long. I mean by stock is go buy it and race it. Nothin else done. this is kinda how im feeling it as well.......Tat if you would have run stock gearing he would have been right with you, i raced my buddy on my stroker with stock gearing, and he was amazed how his stock bike could stay with my "Banshee" i geared up to a 17 and then he realized his bike wasnt that quick.......stock dont they have around 50hp? to a banshee's 37? 50 pounds lighter as well? taller stock gearing? and stock for stock theres no hook in a stock banshee chassis......so really how could the stocker win?, then you pipe the banshee? 10 more ponies, more of a fair race? so now pipe the 450 and so on, i think youd have to spend a grip of cash to get the hp out of the 450 you can with the shee for a couple grand, but stock for stock the 450 beats a shee.....and we all know that a stock shee will take a stock raptor at least on pavment where tractions not so much a factor, even the dirt mags boast that, so now even if i hadnt seen it happen, armed with that knowledge id asume the 450 really kicks the raptors ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted December 26, 2003 Report Share Posted December 26, 2003 no way in hell does that 450 beat a raptor in a stock vs. stock drag race..i dont know whos telling you that but wake up I don't know what or who's pipe you just put down, but there is no way in hell, or even here on earth that a stock banshee will beat a 450. it's just that simple. I don't need anyone to tell me anything, and i am certain I have "woken up" this morning. I have seen it with my own two eyes. I have raced them. Dragged them, and raced woods with them. I have been beaten by the 450. My bike isn't stock, and his was. And do not give me any shit about him being a better rider than me. It ain't so. My bike is fairly quick for a stock motor. I have pipes, and some other little tricks and what not, but I got beat by his bike. I also beat his. All in all, I say we were even. now, with a stock shee, there is NO chance for you to beat a 450 out of the box. not gonna happen. Unless dude has a heart attack while racing, you will lose. The new 450's are just that fast. However, as aforementioned, once you mod the bike, it goes to the shee from there. Sometimes, I think some people have their head so far up their asses, or others asses for that matter that they can't see the light..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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