BIGONTS Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) I've been running this short harness for years now. Last weekend, the bike died all of a sudden on the dunes. Ran a couple of checks and the stator and coil are good, there’re about 2 years old btw. I have an extra complete harness and ECU and bike fired up when I plugged it in thinking it was the ECU. Now, with this harness, the bike started only when I disconnected the black ground wire. I also jumped the kill switch/tether to eliminate the possibility of those being bad. Any ideas what could be wrong? What could happen if I leave that ground off? The plug with red tape on it goes to kill swith/tether and shares the ground coming off black coil plug. I checked the Clymer’s schematics and that a ground should be there, even though the stock harness is not grounded by a separate wire anywhere. Thanks Edited October 24, 2016 by BIGONTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGONTS Posted October 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Just took another look at the wiring diagram and the only thing that is grounded is the voltage regulator. Since I'm not running one as I don't have any lights, is that OK? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Be sure the black/red wire is connected to the solid black wire when you are trying to start it. You can hook up a tether a variety of ways to that harness once you rule out the issue. Edited to reflect hoppedups corrected info. I originally said to ground the white/black wire, which is not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted October 24, 2016 Report Share Posted October 24, 2016 Just took another look at the wiring diagram and the only thing that is grounded is the voltage regulator. Since I'm not running one as I don't have any lights, is that OK?Yes. People may disagree, and there is a argument that the ground is needed, but I don't ever run one on the 7 or so motors I have. If you tried everything else then by all means go ahead and ground all black wires back to the frame and back to the motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 grounding the white/black kills it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGONTS Posted October 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) Here's my shut off set up. I'll have to test them. However, I did unplug them and jump with a wire and it still wouldn't start?/ http://www.bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?/gallery/image/8771-switches/ Edited October 25, 2016 by BIGONTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 grounding the white/black kills itShit yes. The black, wire is grounded when the run switch is OFF. So just the red/black and all black tied together. Sorry for the bad info! Was trying to picture my harnesses. I have my black/white isolated and not used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted October 25, 2016 Report Share Posted October 25, 2016 How was your push button kill switch hooked up? Is it "normally open", or "normally closed"? How you jumped it could have been wrong depending on how it is hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGONTS Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Ok. Still trying to figure it out. Used a test light on both switches and light goes on when pushing in the button or unhooking the teather. So I assume that's normally closed? How's the oem key set up? How would that ground off the coil impact that?? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGONTS Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 I mean normally open, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGONTS Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 So both tested good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Get with kompulsive concepts and tell Corey what you want. He will make it and make it work. My time is worth more then what he charges, so just about any bike I come across with a harness issue, new harness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Beat me to it rob he charges pennies compared to being stuck, all new connectors and fittings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 I mean normally open, right?Yes I think. The circuit is open until you push the button. In that case you just unhook it. No need to jump anything to bypass it. Or just do what they said. Corey will get one done quick and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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