Banshee barely creeping with clutch in and another item

[Banchee]

Hi all,

First post, but long time follower. Been riding and racing trikes most of my life and bought a banshee over the winter. Rebuilt the entire motor and finally got it dialed in. Having an issue now and looking for outside help.

 

With the clutch fully engaged I have a minor (very minor) creep if i blip the throttle high enough. The issue is relatively new and wondering if I need to crack the right side case open and manually adjust. I am running the ASV lever/perch and have adjusted it out to have 1/16 play. I have the pancake bearing installed along with the driveline fibers/steels and stiffer springs. The clutch basket has some grooves in the fingers but IMO they weren't significant enough to warrant a filing or a new basket. I have seen worse on my race trikes with no issues. I also have the modded shift star and modded shift shaft from FAST.

 

My other issue is when shifting into first it isn't smooth and sort of "bangs" into gear.

 

Is this the typical nature of the banshee or should I investigate further.

 

Thanks in advance for any help!

[trickedcarbine]

You need to get a fresh basket, inner hub, and pressure plate. Might as well do a pancake adjuster as well.

[registered user]

im not sure you need a new basket or hub. depends how significant you say the grooves are. the clunk and creep arent something i would say is normal. reinspect everything to be sure its in good order or something may be out of adjustment. ive never tried the asv levers. do they have proper throw ?

[Larry's Shee]

Could be stretched cable or it may need an oil change. Or adjustment at the clutch.

[RagunCajun]

I have an asv lever,slingshot and cascade pan cake bearing. It's been working fine for years. I had a duneable override so i was always using the clutch since i couldnt backload it. Zero issues.

 

I had a slight creeping issue like you Sunday when i went ride. It was just my adjuster on the clutch perch too loose.

 

I did have to adjust the little jam nut and inner adjuster(using an allan wrench) when i was setting up(building) the bike about 3 months ago when i first fired her up. Assuming the basket etc is ok, i think you need to adjust it manually. You can save the oil by tipping the bike over on the fly wheel side. It's very easy to do. And if that isnt adjusted right, nothing yo will do on the perch/bike will help enough.

[sleeper06]

As u might already know a grooved basket will cause plates to stick therefore giving you a creep, inner n outter hubs are cheap and can also give you similar problem. Once you install aftermarket clutches I sdjust pancake bearing to engage just before the arrow on cases. As long as the cable isn't stretched and pancake adjusted like stated you should be able to use perch adjustment to get desired results

[Banchee]

Thanks all for your help. The oil is fresh in the cases and I feared it may have been the slight grooving in the fingers causing the plates to stick. The cable is original to the machine. I might as well get the whole clutch setup with a new cable. I will also try to set the actuator as sleeper suggested.

 

@ Trickedcarbine, what is a pancake adjuster? Is that something seperate from the pancake bearing assembly I received?

Edited July 1, 2016 by Banchee

[RagunCajun]

It's the Allan screw in the middle of the whole clutch. Center of pancake bearing. It's held in place by a nut. That's how you adjust it correctly.

 

For reference off Google

 

Yours probably looks a little different but you should get the idea. Works the same way.

[Banchee]

Oh yes, got it, mine looks identical. Thanks!