ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 i assume it isn't great if he thinks 3 pieces welded together is better than 1 piece. It can be if done properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennett131 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Self destruction of thread, in 3....2... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Why not? did you read somewhere on a forum or google that you cant? I know damn well you are not talking from experience. You pesky lil forum wheeler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 You are one clueless. If many pieces welded together in a straight line is so great, why is nothing made that way? And I know from experience, single piece is better than welding. Idno maybe they should, i mean you save tons of material and time by welding a bunch of small pieces together right? So you dont think someone could weld up 3 pieces to have the same structural integrity as an equal length single piece? and were not talking about butt welding something together with a buzz box and 6011 rods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Im not saying its better, im saying it can be done if you wanted to and knew how to. Extremist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Im not saying its better, im saying it can be done if you wanted to and knew how to. Extremist. It can be if done properly. You literally said "it can be" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 The swingarm should be the easiest part, Gussett pieces will be harder to make than the swingarm. Explain your reasoning. A gusset is a simple piece ground to fit. Not all just doing it to try to save money, This is what i am going to be pursuing as a career. At the time yea its going to save me alot of money, Which hopefully at the end of this summer will be helping me to return to UNOH to finish my associates in high performance motor sports. And its not something that im going to be trying to complete all on my own, The shop that i work is just me and my boss, someone who has grown up Fabricating his own dirt track cars and such. So im just gathering information to present to him and get a combined collective of something that is going to work. I may be in kentucky but im not out back stick welding scrap metals haha... Thats down the road Don't try to tell us your boss said extending swingarm is good idea. In addition to extra/unneeded unsprung weight, the new joints at point of highest stress/forces. Holding swing arm true for welding is same whether new or extended. Man most of you dont even understand structural integrity. Just please know how to fabricate properly before building anything. Before it breaks like that swingarm in this thread. And you hurt yourself or others. You can extend a stocker to be just as strong if not stronger then a complete new one. After its all said and done, just build new. Imo BUT, by the time you add sleeves/Fitch plates, you've got a nice boat anchor. Unsprung weight kills this idea. You literally said "it can be" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 You literally said "it can be" Keyword "can" did you catch that part? You know what that means? Variables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 (edited) Extremist? FFS dude. Single piece is better than multiply pieces. A stock swingarm that has been cut and extended will not be stronger than a new one. Nothing extremist here. There is a reason everyone, if possible, uses a single piece instead of multiply pieces welded together. Its not a matter of what is better, that is not the argument lmao...i said can be which means its possible to do so, overall hell no it wont be better than new. it will be heavier among other things but can be made as strong or stronger. Yet again we are not talking about something new, stop using that shitty extremist example. You are telling me you cant take say a 2 ft piece of metal uncut and then have another 2 ft piece of metal cut into 2 or 3 pieces and no matter the welding method, sleeve, plate, gusset etc you dont think it can be as strong? Edited April 28, 2016 by ATVridinMaNiAc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsideBanshee Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Oh fuck an UNOH flag fag! They still racing around CP like it's a fucking track?You know thats not ever going to stop haha. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsideBanshee Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 I have to laugh at your swingarm idea. Ten seconds with your boss and you'd have the answer to that. You have equipment and ability to do cro-mo? I do not have chromoly equipment. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsideBanshee Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Explain your reasoning. A gusset is a simple piece ground to fit. Don't try to tell us your boss said extending swingarm is good idea. In addition to extra/unneeded unsprung weight, the new joints at point of highest stress/forces. Holding swing arm true for welding is same whether new or extended. BUT, by the time you add sleeves/Fitch plates, you've got a nice boat anchor. Unsprung weight kills this idea. No my boss hasn't said anything about this, it's still a thought In the air. But we do sometimes weld together smaller pieces to save on raw stock. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Did you not read where i said new would be better? Of course not you only hear what you want to in order to make yourself seem right. The way forum lurkers minds work. You are wrong unfortunately...can be made as strong or stronger, Worth doing over new? likely not unless you want to for hell of it. You could have your piece 2 ft piece of tubing and then you can give me a piece equal length but in pieces and i guarantee i can make my withstand more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATVridinMaNiAc Posted April 28, 2016 Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 Lmfao...you are one sad fucking panda. I recommend you stop creeping the forums for at least a little bit and read a blacksmith and wheelwright book. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnsideBanshee Posted April 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2016 https://vimeo.com/164598590 Someone let me know if this little video worked or not, and would anyone be interested in something like this? Or possibly one for an entire bike? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G530A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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