barry1me Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I am taking my stock 06 SE with Trinity Stage 4s and planning to do a 4mm kit with dune/play port. Herr said with stock reeds, carbs I would be looking around 70-72hp, if I jump to 35s, pods, timing plate, and race gas I could be in the 85hp range. I am trying to decide if it worth the extra for me to do this. Right now I was planning to keep stock swing arm. I still have tors on my stock carbs. Just curious who has done this build and if they did stock carb setup and then went to 35s did they think the $800 in additional cost is worth it, or just stick with stock carb setup, no advance timing and pump gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Personally I'd pass on hjr. Just preference on my part. But the numbers aren't unrealistic. I'm at 80hp with a dune port(I guess that's what it would be) 35pwk Vf4 cpi pump gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry1me Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Personally I'd pass on hjr. Just preference on my part. But the numbers aren't unrealistic. I'm at 80hp with a dune port(I guess that's what it would be) 35pwk Vf4 cpi pump gas I appreciate your advice. Do you have any specific issue with HJR? From what I have read there timing is top notch, and stand behind a good name. Redline looks to be good also if you have 6 months to wait. I tried calling 10 times in past two days and still havent heard a voice. Im not willing to work with the guy down the street (RDZ) as there seems to be to much negative stigma surrounding him, and his prices are not inline also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I appreciate your advice. Do you have any specific issue with HJR? From what I have read there timing is top notch, and stand behind a good name. Redline looks to be good also if you have 6 months to wait. I tried calling 10 times in past two days and still havent heard a voice. Im not willing to work with the guy down the street (RDZ) as there seems to be to much negative stigma surrounding him, and his prices are not inline also.I along with a few others have had issues with hjr. Others have had good results. He just wasn't able to help with with a problem that I had, kept me having my tail for months. Took a different builder 2 minutes to figure out. Redline has a waiting list for a reason. I use a local-ish guy. His name is sleeper06 on here. He built my current 80hp motor. I've also used another guy, surfrjag on here. He builds a mean trail bike that I've ridden 2 of. Almost like 4 strokes. Both do it in there own garage. Both build really fast shit too. I just like to support backyard guys. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandking Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Kevin will set you up, I would keep the stock carbs and save the money. Timing plate and vforce reeds next. Suspension should also be a priority. Pods are nice but be careful with the stock carbs they don't have a lip like the Keihin carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Id pass due to seeing prior peoples issues. Seen a few posts where people were lead to believe they were getting a Hot Rods crank and ended up with the wang crank. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Where you getting 800 for carbs alone? Fast has them for $175 each. 100 bucks for an intake, and another 100 for K&N pods with outerwears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebanshee98 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Going +4 on on a timing plate regardless of build will be beneficial. Also going 4mil and having it ported will be good as well. Using race gas or pump gas will depend on your wallet. If you can swing the higher price of 110 then you will see gains. If not no worries you can still make good power on pump for what it can be. Some of the best builders will have a waiting list and IMO will be worth the wait. There are some others that's will do a good job as well. Bigger carbs will mean more top end but will take away some mpg. Setup is a huge key especially in a trail bike via suspension. Stock length swingarm is fine for a 4mm ported stock cylinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeMachining Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Having a waiting list is one thing, dont answer phone or email is something else that i dont understand. I send a couple of email not long time ago about porting to a sponsor here (Redline) and i didnt get answers at all. So this sponsor, even if he's reputable here will NEVER see one coin from me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfrjag Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I would do the 4mm keeping the stock carbs but get the vf reeds and the timing plate now. You will enjoy it.. then later if you want a little more get the bigger carbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Good, fast, cheap. Pick two 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandking Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Redline is great to deal with I lost second gear last year and he fit me in and had it back to me within a couple weeks. Promod and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Machine Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 A friend had a 4 mil, stock cylinder, ported, stock carbs, cool head, vf, pods. Put on bigger carbs, 28/33?. He said he said he felt a slight improvement but not enough to justify cost. So maybe save the bigger carb money for something else. Promod? Lock out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangheraent Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) I had my dune 4mill done by HJR the bike was a rocket. Nothing touched that bike. It was ported for mid range. I just had my 250r done by him this weekend once I get it running ill post an update. He started working on the motor on thursday I told him I needed it by the 15th latest. He worked through the long weekend and it should be here today or tomorrow 15 days early. Once I run it ill let you know how it runs compared to before. On my 4mill i ran stock carbs for a while then went to 30mm oko carbs then 34 pj. For me the 34mm was a huge improvement lost a ton of bottom end though on the smaller carbs I wasn't on the pipe as much I could climb big dunes with half throttle on the big carbs I had to rev it good but I easily gained 5-10% on top. Edited March 31, 2016 by sangheraent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennett131 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I had my dune 4mill done by HJR the bike was a rocket. Nothing touched that bike. It was ported for mid range. I just had my 250r done by him this weekend once I get it running ill post an update. He started working on the motor on thursday I told him I needed it by the 15th latest. He worked through the long weekend and it should be here today or tomorrow 15 days early. Once I run it ill let you know how it runs compared to before. On my 4mill i ran stock carbs for a while then went to 30mm oko carbs then 34 pj. For me the 34mm was a huge improvement lost a ton of bottom end though on the smaller carbs I wasn't on the pipe as much I could climb big dunes with half throttle on the big carbs I had to rev it good but I easily gained 5-10% on top. Nothing touched it eh? Doubtful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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