m671054 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 I know about the needle bearing conversion some use but i was wondering if anyone wants to share a part number for a replacement bushing. I saw redline sells a gear and bushing. I have a good gear just looking for the bronze,steel bushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 I doubt you'll find just the bushing. That's why Redline sells the gear/bushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 jt couldnt make one? seems simple enough personally i like the bearing idea better but thats me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m671054 Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Have heard nothing but failure with the bearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_gillies Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Bet there is 500 plus hours on mine. I'll post pics when I tear into it. Always use honda HP trans oil, clutch plates last a long time, oil stays very clean too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I haven't seen how the bearing setup is configured on these engines but I know nearly every other 2stroke ever made uses a double row needle on a steel bushing and they seem to last forever. 500 hrs would be nothing under normal use for most engines. the basket turns relatively slow so its not likely to wear out anytime soon from to many revolutions. a few seasons of clutch dumps on asphalt may wear it out quicker than normal I guess. im not a asphaly guy so I couldn't say for sure. what type of failures are you talking about ? was it a high quality bearing used ? I wont say what brand but some of them pancake setups are sent out with the cheapest Chinese bearing you can imagine. how they last longer than a weekend is beyond me. luckily theres a heavy duty upgrade from a Honda engine that can be used. I could see a cheap bearing under the basket failing in short order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 the ones i have seen available are not the same as other dirtbike/ atv style. they are the bearing shoved on the end of kicker gear.. i have a setup i did that uses 2 bushings and the bearing but it lets the bearing actually rotate like it should. involved machining the gears down some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Redline is the only one having the bushings made in quantity, he was running extremely low last time I checked and I had to get a set of straight cuts without it. . It's probably cheaper to get a used basket n press bushing out . I have a sacrificial bushing I use as a press tool so I don't damage good bushings on the press 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Back when I worked in a transmission shop, I ordered some needle bearings to go in there. They are far superior to the junker in the bronze race that you see on EBay. Pretty sure they were out of the Toyota U series transmissions. None the less, it's a pretty stout part and it's been put in the same motor after 2-3 rebuilds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 JFC. Get the one from Redline that's ready to go. I'm running them in all my 24s. No issues whatsoever and one of them is 3 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m671054 Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I know the redline one will work and last. My issue is the cost. I have a good gear, just looking for a bushing. A few years ago tedder was selling them for 23bucks. I am in no rush and have found that if i take my time and figure out where else the same parts are used i can buy at a significant discount. (Lectron parts come to mind) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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