tfaith08 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I don't anticipate doing anything other than taking this bike to the track. I may occasionally do a quick ride with everyone after they veer off into the woods, but I currently don't have anyone willing to make a trip to any major dunes that I could justify keeping $750 in pipes for. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebanshee98 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 It would be really cool to see the slp and snipers on this dyno graph with the serval motor. We have already seen a serval motor with the snipers shearers and cpi on a graph. If you remember JDS motor graph that had the cpi and slp pipes, the slp came on power way earlier, made the same peak hp and made more trq. Someone got a set of slp they could use? Maybe jd could send a set out? Basically we would be seeing the same thing we saw earlier with the CPI and sniper. Snipers are gonna make more power it's already been done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfaith08 Posted January 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Anybody within a few hundred miles of Mobile, AL with some SLPs or any other pipes that someone wants tested? I can provide a place to stay and have a few good places to ride, but I'd rather not have the liability of someone else's pipes unless it's necessary. I'll have it on a dyno with CPI and snipers, though probably not on the same day. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 We talked snipers on mine as well. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Let's have a little reality check here for a minute. With either the Snipers or CPI, you're looking at about a 95hp +/- motor. Most ameture and pro level mx riders are on bikes building around 55-60 hp. We both know that unless you're riding some very high speed and wide open tracks, that you will never come even close to using that much power. The goal needs to be what pipe, weather Snipers, CPI or some other pipe, will offer the most ridability for the type of tracks you're on the most. I'm assuming that Cam knows how you intend to use this motor? All true, but remember most guys here aren't racing MX competitively every week. It's fellas who still like to crank it over a jump, but don't ride like pros. I'm not saying guys here don't know how to ride well, but there's a difference between a well seasoned racer who can rail the machine through the turns with enough momentum to ease it up and over a jump right out of the turn. Where as guys that occasionally go to tracks and rec ride a lot, tend to not carve the turn under the same pace and come out of the turn and give it a hand full of throttle and more or less have to huck the machine over the jumps. I myself have come to appreciate an unnecessary amount of power in some situations like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 All true, but remember most guys here aren't racing MX competitively every week. It's fellas who still like to crank it over a jump, but don't ride like pros. I'm not saying guys here don't know how to ride well, but there's a difference between a well seasoned racer who can rail the machine through the turns with enough momentum to ease it up and over a jump right out of the turn. Where as guys that occasionally go to tracks and rec ride a lot, tend to not carve the turn under the same pace and come out of the turn and give it a hand full of throttle and more or less have to huck the machine over the jumps. I myself have come to appreciate an unnecessary amount of power in some situations like that.Yes. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfaith08 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 After yesterday, I didn't learn any new reason that I need more bottom end power, but I did remember a lot of it. -If I nail it when landing a jump, it's pretty much a lost cause. -If I nail it to try to pull the front end up in the air, it takes entirely too long -If I'm sideways through a curve and catch too much traction, it bogs. If I keep it a gear lower, I have to shift before I'm through the curve. -I can't keep it in a higher gear coming through longer right-hand curves to keep from having to upshift halfway through. It's either let it bog or let it rev it's balls off. Those are what I noticed yesterday. Not to mention the times that I didn't carry enough momentum through the curves, but that's rider error and a bottom end power issue. I was the 3rd fastest at the track yesterday behind a 60-ish year old guy on a CRF450 and my buddy on a long travel YFZ. I could keep up with the YFZ everywhere except corner exit until I had a few issues that I had to pull off to fix. During that time, they kept riding and getting faster. By the time I got back on, a kid on a TTR230 landed with his front tire turned and ate shit harder than anyone I've ever seen. We pulled off to help him and then got overran with the drunk crowd on the mud bikes. We got back on to try and push them off the track and a super special idiot that had to be taken by ambulance to the hospital because he tried to whip his 250EX in the air and couldn't pull it back. Needless to say that we won't be going back to that track on the weekends. We'll have to venture out even farther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfaith08 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Besides bottom end power, I have to fix arm pump. I think that a CSL seat and some smaller front tires will help. I'm also sending my shocks to JET after I pay Cam for the serval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 SNIPERS FFS, no one listens to anything. You think on a 10 mil SS as well? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Besides bottom end power, I have to fix arm pump. I think that a CSL seat and some smaller front tires will help. I'm also sending my shocks to JET after I pay Cam for the serval.Cam is pretty good to work with isn't he? I sent him one complete check for my build, he is definitely someone you can trust. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Edited January 25, 2016 by controls77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 You think on a 10 mil SS as well? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk I believe Cam uses a custom pipe setup from Shearer on the SC and SS. I don't think any testing has been done with Snipers on either motor. Cam is pretty good to work with isn't he? I sent him one complete check for my build, he is definitely someone you can trust. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Cam has been building my motors since 2005, starting with a 10mm Cub. Since then he's also built me two 18DMs and three 24DMs. You can trust him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdgriff Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I believe Cam uses a custom pipe setup from Shearer on the SC and SS. I don't think any testing has been done with Snipers on either motor. Cam has been building my motors since 2005, starting with a 10mm Cub. Since then he's also built me two 18DMs and three 24DMs. You can trust him. don't forget the 10dm Trail bikes, FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 don't forget the 10dm Trail bikes, FTW M&M built that motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdgriff Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Ahh Trail bikes, FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I believe Cam uses a custom pipe setup from Shearer on the SC and SS. I don't think any testing has been done with Snipers on either motor. Cam has been building my motors since 2005, starting with a 10mm Cub. Since then he's also built me two 18DMs and three 24DMs. You can trust him. He is on a cruise right now I believe. When he comes back were going to talk more depth into pipes. I asked about LED, and he said your 24dm LED pipes were about 1800 bills. I lost consideration after I heard that. Snipers and Sharear are what were looking at now. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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