sheerider11 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 So roll is a waste? Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk I feel like there is a reason pros run what they run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Roll FTW! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Also comparing my roll swing arm to every other arm I've ever seen and held in person the roll is sperior. Anyone that hasn't held one can't say so. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Dude is not a fucking pro and never will be. In this scenario it's a total waste of funds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Laeger, Fireball or even the Alba LT arms will likely be 10x more than he ever needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Fireball is with out a doubt my 2nd choice. And your right, 99% of people here won't need these items. I have broke 2 name brand swing arms. I don't concider my self an overly aggressive rider. But I'm much happier with my roll. It is better to have and not need then to need and not have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Laeger LT with Fox Float Evols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 OK, here's one of my hillclimb videos from 2013.. The black/green bike is me with the Laeger LT arms and Fox Evols with Stellar +8 arched ladder swingarm and Fox Podium rear shock. That bike had a 24DM in it. Estimated total suspension parts - $3,500 (front and rear shocks, swingarm, a-arms) The white/blue bike is my brother with Quicksand (only a few people will know that name) arms with Fox Float X shocks and a Turbo Chassis +8 ladder with a Fox Podium rear shock. That bike had an 18DM in it. Estimated total suspension parts - $2,800 (front and rear shocks, swingarm, a-arms) You'll have to excuse my brother's wrecks. He had only climbed a couple times that year on that setup and the jump timing on that hill is shit. The slow motion should give you a good idea of how this stuff works. The jumps are deceiving as well as the speeds. If you REALLY think you need a $3,500 front end after watching this, then this thread is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 As I've said previously. Not one of those jumps are ever timed even remotely ok. I would imagine it gets old being forced to flat land on the face of a hill by the end of the day. You still have the hill bike just incase you ever get the itch again? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 As I've said previously. Not one of those jumps are ever timed even remotely ok. I would imagine it gets old being forced to flat land on the face of a hill by the end of the day. You still have the hill bike just incase you ever get the itch again? That hill, in Red Wing, MN, is run/operated by the biggest fucking idiots I've ever encountered in my 10 years of hillclimbing. They could never figure it out. Yea, both bikes are about 3 hours away from being able to run on a hill should we ever decide to go. I doubt we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 OK, here's one of my hillclimb videos from 2013.. The black/green bike is me with the Laeger LT arms and Fox Evols with Stellar +8 arched ladder swingarm and Fox Podium rear shock. That bike had a 24DM in it. Estimated total suspension parts - $3,500 (front and rear shocks, swingarm, a-arms) The white/blue bike is my brother with Quicksand (only a few people will know that name) arms with Fox Float X shocks and a Turbo Chassis +8 ladder with a Fox Podium rear shock. That bike had an 18DM in it. Estimated total suspension parts - $2,800 (front and rear shocks, swingarm, a-arms) You'll have to excuse my brother's wrecks. He had only climbed a couple times that year on that setup and the jump timing on that hill is shit. The slow motion should give you a good idea of how this stuff works. The jumps are deceiving as well as the speeds. If you REALLY think you need a $3,500 front end after watching this, then this thread is done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9dfD6QdJng Need vs. Want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Need vs. Want I understand all about that, but if he can buy top of the line parts for the front AND rear for the same price, he will be money ahead. Fireball, Laeger and LSR are all top of the line. And most people probably don't know Fireball makes a lot of other company's a-arms. They just slap a sticker on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I just went with fireball LT arms and my elka's(only reason i went with elkas is being sprung not air) just showed up yesterday. I researched and i dont need and wont notice all those higher dollar suspension parts. Especially after coming from STOCK suspension. Some people over think this stuff. But hey, go for it. I personally spent left over money else where on the bike where needed. I also didnt know about fireballs out the box caster. Looks like ill be buying an angle meter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I understand all about that, but if he can buy top of the line parts for the front AND rear for the same price, he will be money ahead. Fireball, Laeger and LSR are all top of the line. And most people probably don't know Fireball makes a lot of other company's a-arms. They just slap a sticker on them. If I can get the Roll arms with fireballs raptor tie rods and tie rod ends, that's what I'll do. I won't know if it's possible until I really start going through with it. I'm not sure how all of those components come together, this is my first time tapping into all of this. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted January 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) Do I need the Roll, no. I will never use it to the potential that's the pros do. I don't plan on ever getting rid of this bike, so I want to get A1 parts. By the time I'm done, I'm looking at about 15 grand into it, and you guys know I will NEVER get that back. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Edited January 17, 2016 by controls77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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