PaymentPlan Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Toomey FTW Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk Fmf Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaymentPlan Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I probably missed it, but what pipes are going on Control's new motor?Are you serious? You've only been debating it now for a few pages. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Are you serious? You've only been debating it now for a few pages. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk I typically don't read anything you write because most of it is total nonsense. Same with this debate we're having. You're completely clueless and don't even know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Haha, I literally just seen that bike in person last week. Suposively holds the fastest time in the world for its cc class. Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Yea man. You're one of those 99% that don't know jack about 300' racing. 3.51 is fucking fast for anything, much less a 421 TSS Cub. l LED pipes I bought some White Knuckle pipes new a few years ago. I got them for a 16 Mil Cheetah I decommissioned and sold the motor, carbs, and pipes to one of Art's (at Precision Powersports for other readers) buddys. In the meantime Art's 10 Mil DM with White Kuckle pipes in a stock chassis was running consistent low 3.6s when that was considered a very good time for that motor. Art saw the WK pipes I sold and noticed LED or something stamped on the pipes somewhere. So he called Arlan and they talked about pipes. Loco knows more about the rest than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Yea man. You're one of those 99% that don't know jack about 300' racing. 3.51 is fucking fast for anything, much less a 421 TSS Cub. I bought some White Knuckle pipes new a few years ago. I got them for a 16 Mil Cheetah I decommissioned and sold the motor, carbs, and pipes to one of Art's (at Precision Powersports for other readers) buddys. In the meantime Art's 10 Mil DM with White Kuckle pipes in a stock chassis was running consistent low 3.6s when that was considered a very good time for that motor. Art saw the WK pipes I sold and noticed LED or something stamped on the pipes somewhere. So he called Arlan and they talked about pipes. Loco knows more about the rest than I do. That's what I was saying about 300' racing. I'm not involved but I follow the ATV scene enough to know what's what. Yes, 3.51 is fast, but the majority of Banshee riders will never see or hear about that motor/pipe combo. That sounds about right. PPS and Redline were the first to get the new ones. My DM in-frames were the first set built. My out-frames were one of the first sets built in 2014, mainly because of Cam and because I wanted to see what they'd do, so I paid for a set. The big DM pipes are one thing, but some of the smaller motor LED custom pipes haven't performed as well, which is why you don't see/hear about them as much. So the answer is NO, not every "custom built" pipe performs better. Sometimes they need tweaking or something just isn't jiving. I'm too dumb for that depth though. But controls seems to know, so if anyone wants enlightened, I'd like to hear also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigweav81 Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) 94 fucking pages! The ass pic of the female that was asked from the start, and still the most noteworthy part of this thread never even happened! Just so we're clear not all cheetahs are power valve.......right? Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk Edited September 22, 2016 by bigweav81 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTmachining Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 LEDs are top notch and are built to motor specs like some other pipes promised. I don't have them because what I have works. Do you know LEDs came about? I have an interesting tidbit on that if anyone cares. Ya I have known all about the history. I've also been a part of spending stupid money like Tyler in pipe R&D. I'm not even going to get into detail on all of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I just got back from riding my 521 serval for the first time in nearly two months due to rain. I had a great time. That's all the input i have on this super serval discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 seems alot of tss around here. are they new original ideas or something 'borrowed' that others have already tried ? its not everyday that someone can lay claim to a new concept in 2stroke tech. which leads me to believe tss may be nothing more than a new twist on someone elses idea thats already been tried or rather a copy of someones ideas applied to a different engine. neither of which is tss in my book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTmachining Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Only the ones who pay to play have TSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Ya I have known all about the history. I've also been a part of spending stupid money like Tyler in pipe R&D. I'm not even going to get into detail on all of thisWhat are your thoughts on Titanium pipes? Any R&D on those? Probably not much benefit besides weight, but I wondered why someone hasn't stamped some out just to see. Sound waves in Ti are comparable to steel, so dimensions could theoretically be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTmachining Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 What are your thoughts on Titanium pipes? Any R&D on those? Probably not much benefit besides weight, but I wondered why someone hasn't stamped some out just to see. Sound waves in Ti are comparable to steel, so dimensions could theoretically be the same.To expensive. Welds to brittle. Me no like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I've seen more then one Ti header catastrophe on a lot of stuff my DSM buddies have tried. Pass on any thing Ti exhaust related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Madd Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I've seen more then one Ti header catastrophe on a lot of stuff my DSM buddies have tried. Pass on any thing Ti exhaust relatedAren't stock YFZ headers Ti? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hercalmighty Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I had a ti header on my old yzf 426. Layed it over once and the damn thing crumpled up like a soda can. Bought a white brothers steel header. Sent from my VS990 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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