sheerider11 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 lol i dont think its because his bike is fast.... my bike has zero bottom end that shit is a turtle off the dig im positive i could have bought a new set of stock jugs sent them to a site sponsor.. ported them to match my 4mill and i'd be leaving him atleast 2 houses behind me lets say i went that route i'd be looking at 300 for a set of stock cylinders another 350 for a port job another 180-200 for a piston kit then about 160 to install my top end and there is always a WTF expense some where....a stock cylinder set up would have run me over a 1,000 dollars...this athena kit is going to run about 460 installed as i already have the pistons call me crazy but thats a significant amount of money even if my bike runs half way decent i'll take it Wait. Why didnyour other top end "go bad"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Wait. Why didnyour other top end "go bad"? ok so the deal was i bought a bike that had an athena kit on it to begin with...by all accounts the bike hauled ass but the guy who sold it to me got rid of the original athenas due to scoring...he then went and bought a pair of big bore sleeve stock cylinders with a new set of 68mm pistons...i bought the bike with the parts for the top end i put them on and the bike runs like shit it doesnt even get going until you hit 4th gear its a beast from that point on now my theory as to why the bike doesnt run like it should is because the port work is hogged out..i know nothing about the cylinders (as to who ported them or what kind of port is on them) because i didnt buy them i know its a 4 mill and i know its running a spacer plate which i will be getting rid of this weekend....my mechanic said the bike was running rich he leaned it out as much as he could (safely) and its still not where it needs to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbeat Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 doesnt even get going until you hit 4th gear its a beast from that point on beating a guy by house lengths bald tires and geared the fuck down for doing wheelies around the projects much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 "I know its a 4 mil and I know its running a spacer plate".......so now we know a little more of why it don't run right. jugs are ported but not for 4mil, dude went cheap on the rebuild and now YOUR the one that hasta fix it. theres no reason a 4 mil big bore would just blaze the shit out of a stock stroke. Sounds like the dude just threw it together so it ran and said For Sale! lol. thats exactly what he did lol which im not that mad i got a titled shee for 2200 im a risk vs reward type of guy i thought to myself ok the top end may be a little suspect but fuck it worse case scenario i have a running bike until i come across a deal on a pair of cylinders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 pinching pennies now to spend dollars later. you are happy if you bike runs half way decent because you saved a couple hundred bucks? you are beyond help and a waste of everyone in this thread's time. and for you...look i dont drag race im not building my bike to be the fastest in the world not everybody needs that the bike needs to be fun to rip thru the trails your making the mistake in thinking that everyone needs or even wants 90hp banshee...not the case here i just wanted some credible info on the athena set up.i have other hobbies so FML if if not chomping at the bit to spend 1600 on the top end of a bike that i may ride once every 2 months lol fuk outta here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 You are a moron. I didn't make the mistake of thinking you need 90hp, I made the mistake to think you had a brain. I never said anything about horsepower. You said I don't care if you are trail riding or drag race or what, but you should always want your banshee to run at 100%. Also you say you want info on the athena kit, after you bought them. again, fucking moronic. dude i could turn around and sell these fucking things tomorrow and i wont lose a nickel...when i said half way decent i didnt mean running at 50% of its capacity lol thats how my bike is running right now...alot of my friends have ported shees with 4 and 7 mill cranks they take this alot more seriously than i do i just wanna be able to keep up in the trails...nobody goes thru the trails at 80 mph lol that shit is irrelevant to me if my bike had decent bottom end which is what you need in the trails i would have kept my stock cylinders right now i'll probably get waxed by a bone stock shee with pipes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 dude i could turn around and sell these fucking things tomorrow and i wont lose a nickel...when i said half way decent i didnt mean running at 50% of its capacity lol thats how my bike is running right now...alot of my friends have ported shees with 4 and 7 mill cranks they take this alot more seriously than i do i just wanna be able to keep up in the trails...nobody goes thru the trails at 80 mph lol that shit is irrelevant to me if my bike had decent bottom end which is what you need in the trails i would have kept my stock cylinders right now i'll probably get waxed by a bone stock shee with pipes You are a moron. I didn't make the mistake of thinking you need 90hp, I made the mistake to think you had a brain. I never said anything about horsepower. You said I don't care if you are trail riding or drag race or what, but you should always want your banshee to run at 100%. Also you say you want info on the athena kit, after you bought them. again, fucking moronic. i have no time or patience to deal with your keyboard commando bullshit if you have no information worth listening to hop the fuck off my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 gravel thanks for the info man...the athena kit is what it is out of the box dont bother porting it lol the only useful info i got outta this entire thread i will hope for the best saturday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennett131 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Here is my tip, sell your banshee. You are in over your head and clueless about them.X2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 People told you. The nicasil peels. The ports are wrong. Some one even said, If it's not WFO it's not running worth a fuck. Which you say you don't want. So you seem to have info. You choice to ignore it. But since you saved so much money and bought these with the tons of bad feedback your okay. Because your sure they'll sell with the tons of bad feedback. You need 4 mil domes or a machined head. You didn't say wether your bottom end is up to par. Runs good only after 4th gear? That seems to be a pretty big issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 People told you. The nicasil peels. The ports are wrong. Some one even said, If it's not WFO it's not running worth a fuck. Which you say you don't want. So you seem to have info. You choice to ignore it. But since you saved so much money and bought these with the tons of bad feedback your okay. Because your sure they'll sell with the tons of bad feedback. You need 4 mil domes or a machined head. You didn't say wether your bottom end is up to par. Runs good only after 4th gear? That seems to be a pretty big issue. again if it doesnt run right i can sell them lol i already have a buyer thats a non issue...i had the bottom end checked on the bike the crank has no play the cases are in good shape before i bought the bike he changed the clutch basket pressure plate and the clutches....the bike just doesnt have any take off 4th gear is strong i tried to change the gearing on it but then i still didnt have any bottom end and the bike lost the top end.. gravel might be right maybe the cylinders arent ported to a 4 mill crank everyone told me this bike was quick with the athenas they said the guy should have left them in the bike...i cant vouch for anything because i didnt ride it until he switched the jugs out...lol this experiment isnt going to cost me much if it doesnt work out i'll either go to a ported stock cylinder set up...maybe i'll even get tired of ppl talking shit and get a ported serval...but if i can avoid spending a shit ton of money for a hobby i dont participate in every day then i will im not saying you guys are wrong but im starting to see its hit or miss with these cylinders some have had good results others have gone thru what you guys are warning me about.....i appreciate the feedback good or bad lol just as long as the info is useful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm trying figure out how a bike runs good 4th on but doesn't run good anywhere else.. I'll bet your mechanic has little to no clue how to tune and set up a shee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm trying figure out how a bike runs good 4th on but doesn't run good anywhere else.. I'll bet your mechanic has little to no clue how to tune and set up a shee its been to 2 different mechanics one said the cylinders where hogged the bike wont ever run right until you change them...the other one tried to tune it and it ran better but still not up to par the bike was smoking like crazy and he leaned it out as much as he could...im not much for wheelies and shit but its hard as hell to wheelie the bike it just doesnt have enough grunt on the low end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreb84 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 saturday cannot get here fast enough smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm trying figure out how a bike runs good 4th on but doesn't run good anywhere else.. I'll bet your mechanic has little to no clue how to tune and set up a shee^ this . Your mechanic sounds clueless. If it runs good in 4th,it should run good in all gears. Sometimes if a bike is over geared it'll have a hard time pulling the top gears, but not the other way around. Sent from my SM-G900R4 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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