Green95LX Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 I think i've searched and read everything i could read about DC conversion until now i'm confused about the whole deal. I have the ground floated off the stator body (stock stator) Ordered a trail tech rectifier Since the ground is floated, will i be able to use the stock light switch, wiring and frame ground for the lights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green95LX Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 if you use the frame as a ground, you should also ground the battery to the frame. As for the light switch, I would personally not suggest using it or the wiring. I would suggest rewiring it all. I don't plan on using a battery if i can avoid it. i have two LED lights that are supposed to be 18w each Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green95LX Posted June 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 if you are not using a battery, you have to ground the lights to the rectifier's ground. Can the rectifier not ground to the frame? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 You "could" ground the rectifier to the frame and then ground the lights but i ran ground wires, I have OCD when it comes to wiring. You can use the stock light switch. just make a list of what colors do what. theres a few wiring diagrams on the interwebs that show what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 Also you will want to run a capacitor if you arent running a batter to help with flicker at idle and keep the voltage regulator happy. some regulators have mood swings with no load. I run one sold on ebay for choppers/bobbers. Sparx i think is the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted June 22, 2015 Report Share Posted June 22, 2015 You "could" ground the rectifier to the frame and then ground the lights but i ran ground wires, I have OCD when it comes to wiring. You can use the stock light switch. just make a list of what colors do what. theres a few wiring diagrams on the interwebs that show what they do. This. About the ground. A good ground never hurts. I have one on my motor and got the nology hot wires for the ground strap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckwheat Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I grounded to the frame, used a battery, used the stock light switch but use the switch to control a relay. Running a 125 watt led light bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green95LX Posted June 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I get confused as to what applies to me and what doesn't. I floated the stator ground, so I can use the frame grounds? If you don't float it, then you have to run all new grounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Monkey Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I like to keep it simple and try not hacking the stock stuff. I kept all my DC circuits separate. Ran an extra wire for the floated ground. Jumped into the light switch wiring at the connector, and ran seperate grounds for all the DC coming back to a small battery. I've heard of people having problems with grounding to the frame etc... In my case especially since I'm still running an AC circuit as well as DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 you have to float the ground on the stator regardless of where you ground your lights. Remember that the Ignition is also using the frame/engine as a ground and it is a whole separate system from the lights. In theory it shouldnt make a shit if they share a ground but I have seen alot of wierd shit caused by bad/improper grounds. Ive mentioned it on here several times but an evening or 2 reading up on basic electrical theory and the differences between AC and DC current WILL benefit you greatly on this. Understanding the why makes things so much easier when dealing with electricity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green95LX Posted June 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 trail tech rectifier came in, 5 minutes i had it hooked up and working perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3ac0n Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 On 6/22/2015 at 6:29 PM, Buckwheat said: I grounded to the frame, used a battery, used the stock light switch but use the switch to control a relay. Running a 125 watt led light bar. This is the 3rd post ive read where someone recommended a relay. Could you elaborate on the main reason as to why a relay is used? What kind of relay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
375hp banshees Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 Mainly so you use switch wires as a signal, low draw, to tell relay to send main power from battery/ stator to lights. To save your switch. Any relay that will cover your light draw will work. iirc some use another relay to kill the stator, light circuit, all together, if youre not using it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaudeMachining Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 The best and cleanest way to use LED is to separate lights and cdi power.So, float the ground, buy a cheap 120w ac/dc rectifier/converter, put a battry or a capacitor and be done with it.Envoyé de mon SM-G965W en utilisant Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3ac0n Posted February 19, 2020 Report Share Posted February 19, 2020 7 hours ago, 375hp banshees said: iirc some use another relay to kill the stator, light circuit, all together, if youre not using it. In my dc conversion I went with a trail tech regulator/rectifier and according to their wiring diagram i need to connect the yellow from the reg/rec to the yellow comming from the stator. The yellow comming off the stator is the lighting circuit? Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm guessing a relay to eliminate the stator isn't applicaple in my situation? One last thing has me very stumped, trail tech instructions say DO NOT connect the reg/rec to frame ground. They say connect it to 12v battery negative, and to do the same with ALL devices on the lighting circuit. I've read people going with the frame ground approach and honestly I'd prefer this method but is grounding to the battery only necessary for trail tech reg/rec? See link for trail tech's diagram & instructions https://www.photobox.co.uk/my/photo?album_id=5818464202&photo_id=502715634244 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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