jscharphorn Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 one of my banshees starts hard when cold, it takes over 20-40 kicks to get it started, it has good compression, stock carbs with air box removed and toomy pipes. once warm it starts usually with a kick. and runs real good. what should I look at for trying to solve this pain in the butt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Have you done an actual compression test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yes, I have it written down, off the top of my head it is 126 in both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Good enuff. Clean carbs? Check for air leaks? Choke tube still on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98_sheester Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 What are your pilots in the carb and pinched fuel lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yes carbs cleaned many times, 270 mains, air screw out 1.5 turns, new fuel lines . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Yes choke tube is on, do you think it would be carb related ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Possible. Check reeds. Plug caps old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Reeds are good, I actually purchased the bike a while ago and had new rings put on it for the heck of it, plug caps are unknown on age so probably the originals. I am going to go out and check on the pilots and the needle clip position, I will post back in 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 My elevation is 600' pilots are 27.5 needle clip is 3rd from bottom I removed one carb it was wet when I took it off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrx46 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Damn that was exactly 20 mins like you said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebanshee98 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Take out pilot jet and blow it out with compressed air. Make sure to have a good grip on the jet. After everything is installed and gas has gotten into the carb. Make sure to hold choke out all the way and kick it over. Last one I built carbs were clean as a whistle and even after 10min of letting gas get into the carbs it wouldn't fire. Put it in gear and kicked it over ever so slightly to get gas moving. Bike started right up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrtaterman Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 mine had that issue. pilot jet was issue, had to go up to 30 from 27.5 now it starts in 3 kicks or less cold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I ended up moving clip to 2nd from bottom, the needle is longer then stock. ( will that be OK ? ) So then I kicked it over 20 times and no start, I then changed plugs, kicked it 7 times no start. Then I held the choke all the way out while kicking and it started second kick. So do I need a new choke ? it only stays out on one click and will not stay out all the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscharphorn Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) now that is has started, it starts first kick so now I will have to wait a day or more to see what it needs to start again. So would it be a choke issue or would I need the 30 pilots. would turning the air screw in from 1.5 - maybe 1 turn out tell me if it needs bigger pilots ? Edited May 15, 2015 by jscharphorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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