wont start, tunning suggstions needed

[jscharphorn]

I have a stock motor stock carbs with T-5's and k&N filters, it did have fatty's on it and 280 mains, bike is in the heated garage and I can not get it to start.

600' sea level

it has spark.

I do not know what needles are on it  or what pilots it has.

when turning the air/fuel screw  which way tells you what ?  it was at 2.5 turns out, I tried one turn out and still will not start.

If someone would suggest anything,  tomorrow I will see what it has for pilots and needles that way if needles are not set right I can adjust once a part

[bigweav81]

Have you taken your carbs apart, choketube between carbs connected? Clogged pilot, does it have a fat blue spark?

[jscharphorn]

Yes tube is connected, and I think it has a flat blue spark, hard to tell by myself.

I have kicked it about 20 times with choke on and plugs are wet, I have tried with choke and without and have tried different plugs

[Phelps]

did it run before? all of a sudden?

[jscharphorn]

Ya ran before but I do not have any experience with the bike, traded off a yfz for it, I had the top end off by my motor guy and put new rings on it and started with a few kicks after I put the motor back in, I changed pipes and had a carb leak from a bad float o'ring and I did get it started but it took about 20 kicks, now it has been a month and wanted to move it out of my garage and now can not get it to start.

[jscharphorn]

I thought I would check what pilots are in it and what the needle is at and go from there.

[Phelps]

by chance did you get the carb slides in the wrong carbs? they will sit up off the bottom and literally not want to start, but if it does be ready to panic lol

[O/CbansheeRider]

My banshee starts right up but in past with my hard starting two strokes I always choke hold kill switch down or turn off. Then give it six easy kicks. Then turn it on and give it hell. Might help.

 

 

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[jscharphorn]

Slides are in right.

what should the needle be at and what size jets and pilots so at least I know I am in the ball park ?

[Sandking]

Your pilot is clogged like mentioned above remove and clean 27.5-30 pilot should be fine 25s are stock

[Travis160]

Try cleaning the jets.. Make sure air flow is good (only because you mentioned filters) make sure when adjusting your air fuel screw bottom it out and start turning from there. Is it sending any fuel out of the over flow on either side?. Also plugs. Update would be cool! Mine was a 20 kick starter and leaked fuel out the over flow after shut down until i took the carbs apart and found that the jet was clogged to a pin hole size. Cleaned and now 1 kick, maybe 2 but rarely.

Edited February 28, 2015 by Travis160

[jscharphorn]

I cleaned the carbs and they might have been clogged a tad on the pilots, it does only have 25's in it.

I got it started with 6 kicks once cleaned.

  I don't recall which way tells you if they are too small or too big  I am thinking the smaller the jet the more turns out the fuel/air screw needs to be is that correct ?

[do-work-son]

I would think a 27.5 would be needed. Less than a half turn out bigger pilot more than 3 out smaller. It is a air screw let extra air in.

[jscharphorn]

it was set up with 2.5 turns out.