KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 OK this is my second clutch in about 3 hours of riding. Now I got the EBC 8 plate setup and I cant get this clutch mechanism arrow adjustment any better than when I had the Barnett setup. The arm arrow goes past the arrow on the case. I can't tighten the adjuster screw anymore cause its stripped so any ideas on what to do??? I'm sure it isn't a clutch cable stretch problem cause the arrow would not reach the arrow on the case if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted November 24, 2003 Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Go buy a new adjuster from a stealership. Pull the shaft and ball out and inspect them for wear as well. You shouldn't have any problems if you get this stuff replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 24, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2003 Go buy a new adjuster from a stealership. Pull the shaft and ball out and inspect them for wear as well. You shouldn't have any problems if you get this stuff replaced. I just bought 2 new adjusters just in case and checked out the ball and shaft and they look fine. The arrows are still not lining up. Here is what I am doing: - Screw the adjuster on the pearch all the way in clockwise. - Have the clutch lever pulled in all the way and held there. - Move the adjuster in the middle of the flywheel clockwise trying to get the arm arrow to move back to match up with case arrow. - The arm arrow will not move back far enough to match the case arrow. The arm arrow is passing the case arrow when clutch lever is fully pulled in. - With the adjuster screw all the way fully clockwise, the arm arrow is still about 1/8th inch past too far of the case arrow. This is the same exact adjustment that burned up my last brand new Barnett clutch in 3 hours of riding. This is rediculous! I am ready to pay a shop WHATEVER it will cost to get this thing right by T-Day! Sad part is Trinity Racing or CT are the only shops I know of locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Is the shaft that has the arrow on it seated down in all the way and has the black metal piece holding it in place. Other than everything mention, you should be good to go. Also, are you lining the arrow on the pressure plate to the arrow on the inner basket hub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Is the shaft that has the arrow on it seated down in all the way and has the black metal piece holding it in place. Other than everything mention, you should be good to go. Also, are you lining the arrow on the pressure plate to the arrow on the inner basket hub? All the parts are there and the arm is seated. If I push the arm all the way forward then adjust the screw to get the arrows aligned, then pull on the lever, the arm arrow still passes the case arrow. I ordered a new cable and lever so if that dont work I officially give up'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 The cable has nothing to do with the clutch adjustment. You have to adjust the clutch with the screw in the pressure plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 The problems is the 8 plate clutch kit. The 8 plate kit is to be used Hinson's clutch basket & a special 8 plate Hinson inner hub. The stock Banshee's basket is designed to hold only 7 plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDD Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 I think the problem is your are trying to hold in the clutch lever when adjusting the screw. You need to adjust the clutch lever adjuster all the way in. You want the clutch cable to have as much slack as possible. Now have someone push the clutch throw out arm with a finger towards the right side of the bike. Use the screw to align the two arrows. Now tighten the lock nut and button that thing up. Now adjust the clutch lever so you can pull the clutch in without the bike stalling out when you click it into first gear. If you pull in the clutch lever while trying to adjust the clutch you will not have it set up correctly and you will spin the new plates until they are wasted like your old plates are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 I think the problem is your are trying to hold in the clutch lever when adjusting the screw. You need to adjust the clutch lever adjuster all the way in. You want the clutch cable to have as much slack as possible. Now have someone push the clutch throw out arm with a finger towards the right side of the bike. Use the screw to align the two arrows. Now tighten the lock nut and button that thing up. Now adjust the clutch lever so you can pull the clutch in without the bike stalling out when you click it into first gear. If you pull in the clutch lever while trying to adjust the clutch you will not have it set up correctly and you will spin the new plates until they are wasted like your old plates are. OK I tried it the way you described but when I go to the lever to take out the slack, I can basically back the adjuster all the way out and there is still way too much slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 The problems is the 8 plate clutch kit. The 8 plate kit is to be used with a special clutch basket & inner hub made by Hinson. The stock Banshee's basket is designed to hold only 7 plates. Yeah I thought that but the adjustment is off the same amount either way. Do you think I should take out the extra friction and steel plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Do you think I should take out the extra friction and steel plate? Yep. I could be wrong, its berry berry late but Im pretty sure there should only be 7 plates and 7 frictions in the basket. You need to run the special fancy Hinson setup to run the 8 plate setup. And its just not a regular ol' Hinson clutch basket, you need the special Hinson 8 plate basket and 8 plate hub. I dont know if this is going to help your adjustment problem, but I do know that you have too many plates in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 25, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Do you think I should take out the extra friction and steel plate? Yep. I could be wrong, its berry berry late but Im pretty sure there should only be 7 plates and 7 frictions in the basket. You need to run the special fancy Hinson setup to run the 8 plate setup. And its just not a regular ol' Hinson clutch basket, you need the special Hinson 8 plate basket and 8 plate hub. I dont know if this is going to help your adjustment problem, but I do know that you have too many plates in there. It would be 6 plates and 7 frictions. I've seen the Hinson 9 plate basket but not the 8 plate. On the EBC package, it just stated that there was an extra plate for better clutch performance. I'll pull the extra plate/friction disc out tomarrow and see whats going on again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 yes you are correct, 6 plates and 7 frictions. so your telling me the Hinson setup uses TWO more friction plates than stock ?? Try the 6\7 combo and see if that helps with your adjustment problems. The way you described it, you have everything right and your doing everything right, the only wierd thing I can see is the 8 plate deal. I'll go to Hinsons site and see what they're selling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Ok according to Hinson's website, you dont need any special clutch basket to run the 8 plate setup, a regular ol' Hinson billet clutch basket will work, BUT you do need the special 8 plate Hinson inner hub & pressure plate. quote from Hinson's site\Banshee section\inner hub: "Must be used with Hinson part number H016(clutch basket) & HO21(pressure plate). Use of this setup will allow (1) extra fiber plate and (1) extra steel plate." The new YFZ450 Hinson clutch allows the use of extra plates, making the total 9 friction plates, but this is only on the YFZ. Banshee's go up to 8 plates, YFZ go up to 9 plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixitrod Posted November 25, 2003 Report Share Posted November 25, 2003 Meat, I didn't even notice that. Looked right past the eight plates. Nice catch. Did you have 8 plates with the barnett also? You need to loosen that cable all the way up, adjust the clutch using the screw in the center of the pressureplate and adjust it till the arrows line up. Then adjust the cable with a little bit of slack in it. I think it about 1/4" at the end of the handle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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