jscharphorn Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 I purchased a 421 cub from Andrew Sorensen, he said it had less the 20 hours on it and probably closer to 10 hours. I received the motor and I had Proformance Prototype look at it to make sure all was good. Shawn said clutch plates are burnt up and when that happens it eats the fibers, I contacted Andrew and with a hassle he finally made right on it. he did say that he got the clutch from Fast, but Andrew used stock steels so the clutch was not all fast like Andrew said it was. We took the head and cylinders off and the engine builder Steve Sole did not use stud extenders and you could see the ware in the cylinders already. Andrew called Steve and Steve ended up calling Shawn and when asked about the stud extenders Steve said ya I just didn't use them, also it seemed to be missing 2 O rings in the cool head, could they have flown out sure its possible but we never found them. Then Shawn noticed the clutch side crank seal was on backwards and something looked funky in the bottom of the cases so I told him to pull the motor apart. one of the O rings on the crank was in pieces and someone used a dremel tool in the bottom of the case to try and attempt a mod but it was a hack job. Andrew said send the motor back if your not happy but at that time it would cost me $175 plus gaskets to get the motor back together and then about another $100 for shipping so it was not worth the loss. Well to make matters worse I sent the tranny to Camatv, he just contacted me and said someone got the clutch ball to hot and it welded it to the shaft and someone tried to cut the ball off and when doing so they damaged some gears and the shaft, $110 worth of parts. So I contacted Andrew and he is not willing to pay the $110, he said send the motor back. I am not about to loose over $300 to do this even though it really needs to be sent back because I could buy a good motor for what I will have into this hacked up job. So be carful buying any parts from Andrew he sent Steve these hacked up parts to put this motor together. Be carful if you have Steve Sole put a motor together, he installed seal backwards and cut corners on stud extenders plus did he have anything to do with the case hack job and tranny fix ? I showed the pics that Camatv sent me and Andrew said those look useable to me so again Andrew would hack anything up to make a sale. Quote
locogato11283 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 He's all over the FB group. Have you posted this there? If you send the motor back is he going to refund your money? If so, I would go that route. Quote
sprinklerman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 Who are these people? Screen name on here? Quote
jscharphorn Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Posted January 22, 2015 I know he is on FB, I have not posted there yet , I do not know his screen name here, I purchased it off FB Tyler, sad thing is loosing out over $300, I thought rest of motor was good and after he took care of the clutch I sent the cylinder off to race reflections so I have a bill for polishing now also. 1 Quote
jscharphorn Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Posted January 22, 2015 He said he would take the motor back, it is the loss of assembly and shipping and now the cylinder polish, it is past the return option 1 Quote
jscharphorn Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Posted January 22, 2015 He made right with the clutch, tranny was not know about until Camatv took it apart. Steve Sole on the other hand assembling this hack, ? 1 Quote
sprinklerman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 That sucks. At least on here you can find out if someone is legit or not. FB ftl. 1 Quote
n2otoofast4u Posted January 22, 2015 Report Posted January 22, 2015 ^^ Stirring da pot on FB Im sure. Quote
locogato11283 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Just remember from here on out, guys on BansheeHQ FB page think it's OK to send a junk motor out without ever inspecting it. Quote
Burke Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 myspace FTMFW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrtIwRJjNSQ Quote
dave5.0 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Personally from the bad experiences in the past that are plastered all over here I think anybody who buys a complete engine that's not in pieces is asking for trouble. You could buy something complete from a competent seller and there could still be issues. There's too many things going on inside to buy them as a whole unless it's in a running bike. 2 Quote
n2otoofast4u Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Personally from the bad experiences in the past that are plastered all over here I think anybody who buys a complete engine that's not in pieces is asking for trouble. You could buy something complete from a competent seller and there could still be issues. There's too many things going on inside to buy them as a whole unless it's in a running bike.Cool. I'll tear the sc apart. You come inspect, I'll put back together, then you buy? 1 Quote
dave5.0 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Ya. I'll bring 1500 with me for the pile of parts. 1 Quote
n2otoofast4u Posted January 23, 2015 Report Posted January 23, 2015 Here all along I thought you wanted the whole bike not just the clutch cover and pistons. 1 Quote
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