LaegerEliminator Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 What's the point in spending another 6-7 hundred dollars on arms that have the same adjustability and put the quad out the same amount of inches as others and forward some with the same if not better adjustability as others. If Houser made the MGC arms for the banshee I'd be buying those bc of the ease of adustability. Also you can't beat lifetime warrantee on lonestar or JD.Pm lastnline75 and ask his opinon Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Is he going to tell me something he herd from someone else? He said she said type of deal? Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Gusto I have a set of LSR's already. 1 Quote
LaegerEliminator Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 Is he going to tell me something he herd from someone else? He said she said type of deal? No. He's gonna give you a hands on personal experience opinion. Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 25, 2015 Author Report Posted January 25, 2015 Laeger have him pitch into this thread as to why. They both use the same 4130 material and spacers to set caster. Their camber is both adjustable by screwing in or out the joint and obviously toe adjustment through the tie rods. Only difference being the design of them and the roll uses a bolt to get accurate caster and camber whereas the JD uses spacers of the same dimensions depending on the type of riding your doing and roll uses different ball joints and in areas that the JD doesn't but what they use on them are both replaceable and upgrade able on the JD arms if you chose to do so but the roll doesn't provide the extra ground clearance the JD arms do. So really I don't see why I'd spend the extra money on those. Quote
bansheekx Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 The main advantage the Roll Design arms have over the other a arm makers is the ball joint design and the use of needle bearings instead of bushings for the lower mounts. The caster on the Roll arms is adjusted with the heim joints on the upper arms not spacers. The tie rods are stainless steel and the heim joints on the upper joints are top quality. I was lucky enough to get a pair used for far less than what they cost new. Not sure I would pay the price for new one's but they are nice! Quote
trickedcarbine Posted January 25, 2015 Report Posted January 25, 2015 How bout the bump steer of both designs? And does camber change through the travel more or less on either? I've personally never seen JD arms on any thing but an LTR450. Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 Bansheekx it says on rolls website that they use high misalignment spacers to adjust caster and camber so you must have the old version. And like I said you can upgrade the to needle bearings on the JD arms and for $65 might I add. The tie rods are chromoly which a lot will argue that they are stronger than SS so it all depends on which type of SS is used on those rods. Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 Tricked: I wouldn't know as I've only used walsh arms in the past and I can tell you those are awesome arms which held up to the abuse but I'm looking for other alternatives that are cheaper which use the same materials to build and lifetime warrantee that these companies are offering are unbeatable. Bump steer has a lot to do with how you set them up. You can do a quick google search and a variety of quads come up. 1 Quote
sleeper06 Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I built a custom full Walsh 450r about 2 yrs ago with a baldwin racing engine bike handled fucking amazing I would go Walsh if u can if not fireball makes some pretty bullet proof shit Quote
nastyracing Posted January 26, 2015 Report Posted January 26, 2015 I will shed some light. 48" max is what I've found best to work and turn properly. If you go +3+1 like I did your to wide wide w a 3/2 off set factory wheel or most wheels people are selling. You need a 4/1 offset wheel or it bump steers and pushes horrible in corners. If I did it again I would go +2+1 for ease of having more then one set of wheels. Fireball has done me right with killer set up for years and replaceable rebuild able ball joints. They have lasted over 2 season of abuse without replacement. Most others use comst12 ball joints which once a year would need replacing actually everytime I jiggled a wheel one would be deteriorating . Best deal on the market Fire ball long travel arms. Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 I ran JD arms on my old KFX... nothing fancy of a arm... solid reliable.. adjustable... comparable to other arms in its price range... Im not a fan of the "straight" arms anymore though... gullwing is where its at Can't go wrong with the JD arms the owner/builder used to work for Laeger for years so your essentially getting Laeger arms at a steal price. Neither am I but never had lonestar arms so I figured I'd differentiate the two banshees with their LT arms. Houser makes a knarly design for their MGC arms with a awesome looking arc I wish they had some for the banshee. Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 I built a custom full Walsh 450r about 2 yrs ago with a baldwin racing engine bike handled fucking amazing I would go Walsh if u can if not fireball makes some pretty bullet proof shit Must have had her pretty dialed in Eh?! Yea man unfortunately they walsh doesn't make a single thing for the banshee Quote
Sheedawg28 Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Posted January 26, 2015 I will shed some light. 48" max is what I've found best to work and turn properly. If you go +3+1 like I did your to wide wide w a 3/2 off set factory wheel or most wheels people are selling. You need a 4/1 offset wheel or it bump steers and pushes horrible in corners. If I did it again I would go +2+1 for ease of having more then one set of wheels. Fireball has done me right with killer set up for years and replaceable rebuild able ball joints. They have lasted over 2 season of abuse without replacement. Most others use comst12 ball joints which once a year would need replacing actually everytime I jiggled a wheel one would be deteriorating . Best deal on the market Fire ball long travel arms. So I'm guessing you've tried out both set ups? I got the +2+1 on the lonestars and was going to do +3+1 with the JD arms but if your saying you've had both and have plenty of experience I'll stick with what is know to work so please let me know before I order. I was planning on getting 4/1 wheels in the front if I went with the +3..but your saying to stick with +2 and stock wheel offset at 3/2 right? I would go with fireball but like I said in other replies posts im looking for a MGC arm which JD has available. Quote
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