Tedder Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 http://m.youtube.com/results?q=yamaha+banshee+barona&sm=3 Nice batch of ATV race video Mike - Wish we had someone filming at our track rather than just trying to sell us still pics lol. To the OP - There are multiple combo's capable of dipping into the 5's in 1/8 mile but in most cases it takes more effort and $$ than the average person is willing to spend. First key is to do a ton of research. Learn as much as you can before you start a build and be honest/use your head about how much time and money you're truly willing and able to spend. Factor it all in - ATV racing is expensive period.... Not only to build and maintain the equipment but track, travel and entry fee's come into play in also. *Don't forget your rider safety equipment* That being said let me throw this out. Over the years I've had some pretty good success and am proud of what I've accomplished given my overall weight and small motors. I talk with quite a few HQ members but rarely post technical information for a variety of reasons. In my opinion there's way to much emphasis given to "fast" numbers. We all want to go faster whether doing 7:0's or 5:90's but I promise that if your looking to be the fastest your going to be disappointed. Truth is, Those fantastic numbers you hear of or that get posted are often not repeated over and over. Usually they come from either a big motored or extremely light setup (another topic) multi-cylinder, snowmo quads or something that's having the snot sprayed out of it that won't live long. Personally I'm more way impressed with a 5.95 alcohol 4mil cub than a 5:40 sprayed 10mil DM. That brings up another thought... The really fast bikes are usually unruly things that can't come out of the hole straight and a slower consistent bike with a good rider would eat up and spit out more often than not in both bracket and heads up racing. The long winded point I'm trying to make is to build yourself a solid, safe, reliable machine that you can afford then get out there, be safe and have fun. In most cases if your willing to work at it low 6's are obtainable without going overboard with exotic builds. A really nice byproduct of the less extreme setups is they're more consistent which is what you really need at most race tracks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 without sounding like a dick.... (you was fast to correct my dm statement and then you say a 6 is obtainable without going exotic) i said it's gonna take a dm which seeing how a dm barely even works on stock cases i would think that is considered exotic... not to mention 5's are a hell of a lot different than 6's. i think you have me confused with a guy that has never ran asphalt. maybe because most of my pic's came from a sand surface? idk... either way i know what it takes to put a 200lb rider into 3 digit speeds and i know what kind of speeds is required to achieve mid 6's-mid7's in the 1/8.... i have never ran a bar on asphalt, or sand, but i guess i just got lucky setting clutches up and knowing how to ride so i never needed one. hell maybe that's why i have never seen a 5 on a stellar +10/+14 rigid, 121hp alky motor. maybe it's me just not knowing anything about asphalt compared to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Biggest mod is the rider. Tuner..... The right tune/set up makes any bike idiot proof. The first and only 3.7 I've ever made was on a bike I've never ride. But the owner had it so dialed all I had to do was dump the clutch, get a decent(not good) reaction time, and give it a gear when it needed one. I don't spend much time drag racing so I'm average on the light, and that bike did all the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 without sounding like a dick.... (you was fast to correct my dm statement and then you say a 6 is obtainable without going exotic) i said it's gonna take a dm which seeing how a dm barely even works on stock cases i would think that is considered exotic... not to mention 5's are a hell of a lot different than 6's. i think you have me confused with a guy that has never ran asphalt. maybe because most of my pic's came from a sand surface? idk... either way i know what it takes to put a 200lb rider into 3 digit speeds and i know what kind of speeds is required to achieve mid 6's-mid7's in the 1/8.... i have never ran a bar on asphalt, or sand, but i guess i just got lucky setting clutches up and knowing how to ride so i never needed one. hell maybe that's why i have never seen a 5 on a stellar +10/+14 rigid, 121hp alky motor. maybe it's me just not knowing anything about asphalt compared to you. With me sounding like a asshole, what the fuck are you talking about. I gave facts, A DM is not needed, It has been done with as small as 4 mm Cubs on alky & Cubs on gas. I didn't mention or even imply 6s, I'm talking 5s. So, get off your high horse queeny & pull your panties out of your crack. You have something to prove with your no wheelie bar & your lucky clutch settings. Step-up to the plate & prove your wanna-be know it all BS. I don't hide where I race at. You used a lot of words I didn't use in my statement other than a DM is not needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 slips or it never happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 guess i will just have to trust the slips are actually from a 4mil cub..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 guess i will just have to trust the slips are actually from a 4mil cub..... As far as I know or remember I have never conversed with you until this thread. You seem to think you know about me, that's scary to think you are stalking/lurking on my posts. Most of the made up words have come out of your mouth or other people's posts in this thread. The only one that didn't is that a DM is not required to run the OP's number. I'm looking at my slip with the OP's wanted number. As I referred to earlier as a clue it would take around a 1.30 60' & a 3.80 330' to run in the 5's. It was done on a race gas Cub as stated. Now, those who have read/know my posts. I have posted 4 time slips on this site & said I would not post anymore. The 1st was posted in 2008 or 2009 & was an example of one of our race gas asphalt runs. The other 3 slips was posted in late 2011 or early 2012 of our 1st 3 runs at 300' with the same Cub. With that being said, I'm willing to make you put your money were mouth/keyboard is. You can do it a couple different ways, but either way it's going to cost you money. I'm offline until this weekend, but I'm sure it can be worked out on the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I know a few 4 mil cubs that run in the fives. Ask tim bond he has one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Nice batch of ATV race video Mike - Wish we had someone filming at our track rather than just trying to sell us still pics lol. To the OP - There are multiple combo's capable of dipping into the 5's in 1/8 mile but in most cases it takes more effort and $$ than the average person is willing to spend. First key is to do a ton of research. Learn as much as you can before you start a build and be honest/use your head about how much you're truly willing and able to spend. Factor it all in - ATV racing is expensive period.... Not only to build and maintain the equipment but track, travel and entry fee's come into play in also. *Don't forget your rider safety equipment* That being said let me throw this out. Over the years I've had some pretty good success and am proud of what I've accomplished given my overall weight with small motors. I talk with quite a few HQ members but rarely post technical information for a variety of reasons. In my opinion there's way to much emphasis given to "fast" numbers. We all want to go faster whether doing 7:0's or 5:90's but I promise that if your looking to be the fastest your going to be disappointed. Truth is, Those fantastic numbers you hear of or that get posted are often not repeated over and over. Usually they come from either a big motored or extremely light setup (another topic) multi-cylinder, snowmo quads or something that's having the snot sprayed out of it that won't live long. Personally I'm more way impressed with a 5.95 alcohol 4mil cub than a 5:40 sprayed 10mil DM. That brings up another thought... The really fast bikes are usually unruly things that can't come out of the hole straight and a slower consistent bike with a good rider would eat up and spit out more often than not in both bracket and heads up racing. The long winded point I'm trying to make is to build yourself a solid, safe, reliable machine that you can afford then get out there, be safe and have fun. In most cases if your willing to work at it low 6's are obtainable without going overboard with exotic builds. A really nice byproduct of a less extreme setup is they're more consistent which is what you really need at most race tracks. Yea Ted he use to come all the time. Now he does not come any more. Wish he had my best runs on video but he does not. Kind of sucks. Yea I have bought a few still pics form the tack and the cost a arm and a leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbeat Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 get gopro mike, i think tedder has a run with one mounted on the swinger its awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I have one! I have a few videos of my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbeat Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 did you end up scoring a drag frame or you still rolling with the stocker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Just using to stocker. Think I am going to lighten it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 Ricky Torres stated a 5.96 @ 112 on BHQ Facebook Sept. 7 2014 with a 4mm stock frame. I have no reason to think it's not true. I saw the bike personally run 3 or 4, 6.0s, 2 weeks prior on a decent, but good track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 (edited) ^ why waste time when other people would just rather build bigger motors in hopes that it will make up for the rest of the set up. You going from that 443 cub to that DMX is a perfect example of how a well seasoned and dialed little set up can compete with the big guns Edited September 23, 2014 by trickedcarbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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