sprinklerman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So to the guys saying it's impossible for a case to wear in to a crank....... What's your take after the photos? Just curious to how well folks are taking it after finding out their assumption of "Steel > Aluminum" has been debunked.So you think an aluminum case will wear the whole face of the crank Web until the weld is literally worn away? 1/32" deep probably? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Why is everyone saying I'm at fault here? I didn't take it apart and put it back together without the retainers I just tore it down because I noticed a problem and I found it and Tyson was the last one inside this engine so how is it my fault? Why am I wrong to be mad at Tyson? It was his mistake not mine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nobody is blaming you, you obviously have some unfortunate issue going on. Those pictures can't tell the whole story though. It sucks for you, no doubt. I'm just saying there's usually 3 sides to every story. Your side, their side, and the truth. This may have been a genuine flubb-up. Hope you get proper resolution, whatever that may be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m671054 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 No talk yet about those cases being scrap metal also. TYson says the op just needs a crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 so it pulled the mag side over but not the pto? theres no pics to prove its not seperated and pics of the other side welds This. I see rubbing indicated on the center of the crank, but nothing on the pto side. (Which is directly attached to the gear and bearing in question BTW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 So you think an aluminum case will wear the whole face of the crank Web until the weld is literally worn away? 1/32" deep probably?We looking at the same photos? The crank has some points that are definitely worn well past 1/32. I dunno how it happened, but this guy is fucked. Almost feel like I need to pay my chick to go over there and give the a fella an ol' handy and cheer him up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03DMshee Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Almost feel like I need to pay my chick to go over there and give the a fella an ol' handy and cheer him up. Im having similar issues! Hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 She's not bad. I wish I could get her to bang rich dudes to pay our bills though, so We can start stacking to build a house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1JUANstunna Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Was the damn thing even welded to begin with? Post up pics of the other welds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave5.0 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I've still got a passion motor. I'm not afraid to say it. But it is out of the bike and in a couple pieces on my bench. Gettin measured up and stuff. Ok back to bashing somebody else! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 We looking at the same photos? The crank has some points that are definitely worn well past 1/32. I dunno how it happened, but this guy is fucked. Almost feel like I need to pay my chick to go over there and give the a fella an ol' handy and cheer him up.That would be mighty fine of you.I see the scrubbing. I doubt it's wore that face down past the weld and heat marks. I'm betting that it wasn't welded there. IF << it's rubbed any significant metal and aluminum off, I'd be leery of reusing that crank anyway. .so it's kind of a moot point. Basically I think the OP needs to work something out with tyson. I find It odd that the side MOST likely to pull over didn't. ..but the opposite side seems to have. Strange. HotRods crank failure in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yep. The cases will Chew into the crank as well. You guys never seen a rubber seal wear a groove in a steel crank before? Jeez. It's obvious the clips were left out. Is Tyson to blame? From what I'm seeing id say "you bet your ass he is". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 ^^^Not in 10 passes. Of probably sub 5 seconds each. But hey, it has rubbed , no doubt. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why it pulled the stator side without touching the side that is doing the pulling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennett131 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 ^^^Not in 10 passes. Of probably sub 5 seconds each. But hey, it has rubbed , no doubt. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why it pulled the stator side without touching the side that is doing the pulling. Just a thought, I could be wrong but, if the clutch side pulled a little, wouldn't it pivot on the middle bearings causing the stator side to rub more? Not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Just a thought, I could be wrong but, if the clutch side pulled a little, wouldn't it pivot on the middle bearings causing the stator side to rub more? Not disagreeing with you, just trying to understand things.Could be. I don't know. It's a messed up deal no matter how you slice it.I'm just wondering if the crank didn't already have an issue ...like that un- welded pin not having the proper interference fit, and that's why it separated where it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider1026 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Whole crank shifted. Both welds got chewed. Webbing cracked around pin. Possible seperation started? Lots of heat being generated as well. Either way. The clip grooves look perfect. When u Leave the clips out. This is what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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