camatv Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 YFZ450R with a built Raptor motor FTW! i second that also.... WAY more tq than a fo fiddy dont have to rev to the moon to get it to go anywhere. will make 65hp with ease with much more on tap if wanted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 that was the bike from dirtwheels ? i have that edition. looked like a cool setup on the fuel system. so you threw it in the trash for some smartcarbs eh. what a shame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybobby Posted July 24, 2014 Report Share Posted July 24, 2014 You spying on me mr. Registered?? Yeah I for sure just tossed the fi setup cause it wasn't expensive at all! Jesus please let me ride it this weekend before you judge me... or maybe you can just tell me and all the other hq guys it's a shame already since you have been there done that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thack82 Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 I agree with this. If you have truly found a way to afford one of these at your age, then I don't see why you can't make this happen sooner then later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thack82 Posted July 30, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2014 It is this very reason that people start tearing you down Thack. You need to research some of your plans and ideas just a little further at times. Too often you come across as knowing it all and then you seem to refuse to listen to what others are trying to tell you. At least this time you remained calm were open minded enough to take in the suggestion. Please don't take this the wrong way but I've been a little easier going on this thread because I've only had a select few members calling me names and running everything that's associated with me and my quad in the ground. It's hard not to get upset when you have 15-20 other guys talking shit about you and laying it on just because they want to fit in. I made that Hybrid Frame CAD Rendering a few years ago (2011-2012) and at the time I don't think those YFZR Frame Upgrades were available if they were I wasn't aware of it, and if I had I would have made those changes accordingly on the CAD Rendering. Too old is a bad excuse. My dad has been paralyzed for 47 of his 70 years and lets almost nothing stop him from doing what he wants. My grandpa, starting weight lifting with my dad after he was rehabilitated, he lifted every morning at 6:00 am until he was 88, died at 93. I guess your right in that aspect, Tim Lutz is in his 50's and he's still kicking ass in the Hare Scramble Races on a Banshee. Anybody that's raced ATV Hare Scrambles will tell you it's hell on the quad. It's not IF you'll catch a tree with one of the front tires its when, and the last time I did the handlebars cracked two of my ribs because I wasn't running a steering stabilizer at the time do to fatigue issues I had and the time I thought it was costing me per lap. Come to find out taking it off and running without it for a test/trail run was a bad idea! Lol.. I run the dog shit out of my Banshee when I woods raced it, I'd blow it up or wipe out for a $25 plastic trophy and to prove a point. I still ride the hell out of it and don't show it any mercy but I don't take the chances I used to just to turn a faster lap time in a 2.5hr Hare Scramble that no one will remember anyway. I got tired of taring stuff up and I missed out on 3 months of riding after I cracked my ribs so I decided I'd still build my bike for reliability over everything else but I'd stick to trail riding, hill shooting, drag racing, ect VS the woods racing. I'm the first to admit I'm a little to OCD to run the woods races. That was the beauty of the Banshee Hybrid Frame I designed. If a rider did want to be competitive on a Banshee in the woods or on a MX race they could be. It would handle and ride as well as any of the new sport quads and if you tore the a-arms off the right side of the quad you could get on eBay and buy a new set (all 4) of stock YFZR take offs for $150 and buy a used right from R shock and swap the spring and guts (valving) out and be back up and racing at a fraction of what your other comparative aftermarket options would cost you to replace. Hope this hasn't been said already (long ass posts)... Bobby at LSR said they could build a outlaw based frame that could use either yfz or trx parts. I spoke with him about building another outlaw. A couple years ago he said 2500 - 3K for a new outlaw frame might be a bit more now. My frame was built in 99 and is incredible. It is every bit as dialed in as any new 4 stroke frame. Call Bobby@LSR he knows his stuff. You spying on me mr. Registered?? Yeah I for sure just tossed the fi setup cause it wasn't expensive at all! Jesus please let me ride it this weekend before you judge me... or maybe you can just tell me and all the other hq guys it's a shame already since you have been there done that! IMO the the Smart Carbs and other Fuel Induction Options are a better a better option than the electronic TBI systems that are available for the Banshee at this time. With a programmable digital ignition system like the Dynatek-FS and a Fuel Induction Setup you get all the benefits of a TBI setup without the tuning headaches, additional weight, and cost. The only real difference between a programmable digital ignition/fuel induction setup and TBI is the the rider makes the adjustments VS the ECM. The performance gains between the two will be very close. The only way Fuel Injection on the Banshee would only be a better choice as far as cost and performance is concerned is if somebody like CP developed a mono cylinder setup that was casted for a direct injection bolt on fuel injection kit (ECM, Battery, Harness, and Injectors) then you could reap the benefits in performance and cost over the basic fuel induction and digital ignition system. I've run the Dyna-FS Digital Ignition and Thunder Products Intelajet Fuel Induction System on my Banshee for the past 2yrs and IMO it would be hard to beat by any bolt on electric TBI Kit available as of right now for the Banshee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Fuel injection is solved, whitebread can cover you and has a running bike that is capable of compensating for both alt and temp. Those early Gigot/JSR set ups are pretty crude as today's components weren't quite obtainable when their venture was started. On the frame, I think you are just gonna have to find a quality fabricator who is. A huge shop with a current work load. Someone who will do it on the side yet still be efficient. It won't be fast or cheap, but here is an example.... http://bansheehq.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=162088 Then look for the one Evan did, which is also EFI. SNT did a nice job on a total front end. I helped Domestic Beotch do one that was pretty bare bones... Ours was to show how simple it could be done with minimal resources yet get a good out come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 This is the type of dude you need to get to know http://forums.everything2stroke.com/threads/47922-Suzuki-ltr-cr-500-r-MX-project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Another option, buy a VLS frame. They can configure it to what ever body/seat combo you want. Believe it or not, these are the same chassis Hell, they could leave you the banshee hood and let you run slimmer 450 seat and fenders. Maybe you could even tab a 450 frame for banshee plastics. Either way, update us even if there are haters. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaegerEliminator Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Tricked, do you have a link to these? ^^^ Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fappy'97 Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 YFZ450R with a built Raptor motor FTW! This. Guy that lives here in town, Jeff, built the first one. Was so sick. I'm sure you know him, Windy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted August 7, 2014 Report Share Posted August 7, 2014 Tricked, do you have a link to these? ^^^ Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Man, I used to years ago on my PC. I've searched dead ends for hours today with not much luck. Lotta foreign language involved so be prepared to find a way to copy and paste everything in to a translater app. I've just been google imaging VLS quad and VLS super quad and following he links to forums and hoping to get responses on current contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjayb Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Any updates on this frame build? Have a similar idea I'm kicking around and looking for some insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennett131 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 LOL ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bennett131 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 LOL people think hes an ass hat everywhere he goes! I love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted August 28, 2015 Report Share Posted August 28, 2015 Thack = Windy = RU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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