10milmike Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 Ok. Well I will let you know if he buys it. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 so whats the difference between this and the direct drive piece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 This is what a muti stage looks like. The DD is junk compared to these. But they are a tuning head ace. But once you get them down they work great. not going to get into the the difference on the clutchs. Not to be a dick but if you do not know anything about a muti stage there is no reason for you to own one. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2otoofast4u Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 Shane all the "true" multi stage setups are basket driven. All the DD one does near as I can tell is add some springs to the arm to slow the arm speed down. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 ^^^Yes the d&d is called a time release lock up I think. Green is right from what we can tell is that the springs hold back the arms. They come with different springs. There are a few members here that have one. I talked to one of them on the phone a few weeks ago about it. And he said he is not a fan of it. To me nothing beats a good old finger lock up once you figure out how to tune them correctly. Arm weight, and air gap play a huge factor. Bryan is the only one I know that really has his muti stage set up correctly. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted June 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 Who's covers are clearing these mike? Just any old extended 10 plate type cover? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 This is what a muti stage looks like. The DD is junk compared to these. But they are a tuning head ace. But once you get them down they work great. not going to get into the the difference on the clutchs. Not to be a dick but if you do not know anything about a muti stage there is no reason for you to own one. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk I actually know a bit about the multi-stage. Not a ton as I have no interest in buying one.. But all I've seen on the direct drive is the lil tiny pic and couldn't see how it operated and the description was pretty vague.. Which is why I asked. Multi stage lock ups are nothing new by anymeans.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 Yes sir! Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10milmike Posted June 20, 2014 Report Share Posted June 20, 2014 My old trinity lockup cleared it. Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Shane all the "true" multi stage setups are basket driven. I'm pretty sure the multi-stage started hub driven. Then it progressed to basket driven, but what do I know. They both provide a true multi-stage lock-up. The basics/principles are the same, but the set-ups are different. This is a hub driven lock-up. This is a basket driven lock-up. To me nothing beats a good old finger lock up once you figure out how to tune them correctly. Arm weight, and air gap play a huge factor. Bryan is the only one I know that really has his muti stage set up correctly. A good set-up standard lock-up can provide great dividends when properly set-up. It also provides a good foundation for basic clutch tuning. In the majority of set-ups the multi-stage will give you more tuning options & quicker 60's/ET! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2otoofast4u Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Learn something everday. Luckily I don't have to know/care about this multi junk Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 Can someone explain hub driven and basket driven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanYE west Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 hub driven spins with the inner hub.. its only driven when the clutch is disengauged.. basket driven mounts to the basket and is constantly moving since its driven by the crank. They operate differently since they ramp pressure in a different manor Thats about as detailed as i'm going to get on a keyboard.. someone else can elaborate farther. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 The basic theory is the basket driven one follows engine rpm. The hub driven follows rear wheel speed. There's more to it than that, but copying ShanYEwest. "Thats about as detailed as i'm going to get on a keyboard.." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted June 21, 2014 Report Share Posted June 21, 2014 That works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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