four2err0r Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) KoI just got the banshee back together. I'm not exactly sure how to use the sync tool. Can someone give a brief explanation..? I can get it started but it will not idle. Set the air screws at 2 turns out I'm not exactly sure where to start with the idle screw. I just rebuilt the carbs, #30 - pilot jets, #290 main, 1200 elevation (Chandler, AZ), Air box with no lid, YA3502 k&n air filter. I also just deleted tors and installed the eliminator kit, new cable and thumb assembly. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Edited May 26, 2014 by four2err0r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne_smith97 Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Run the idle screws in til it idles high and then back them down til it sounds good. Then use sync tool to fine tune them. Make sure you get the same reading on both carbs and your golden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeladm Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 This may sound stupid, but are the slides in the right way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four2err0r Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 They have channels that make them go in the correct way right? In any case, the slide openings at the top were at the back facing the air filter.... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four2err0r Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 I have the issue screws all the way in and no idle. But I may be not understanding, do I have to push in thumb throttle and then thread it in a couple more times so screw is under the slide? Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driftingbanshee Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Looking at the top pic the slides look flat? The opening should be a half moon shape but it's hard to see in the pic. Looks like the could be in backwards dont talk to morons you only educate them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 Green circle - cutout that needs to face air filter Red circle - ramp for idle screw (if installed correctly) Sometimes you need to file more off the carb body to allow the idle screw to go in far enough to lift the slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 That's a lot of pilot, what else is done to the motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four2err0r Posted May 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Nothing else that I know of. I believe they are in correctly. The idle screw opening lines up with the screw, and the "Half moon" faces air box. Currently the lock nut is all the way to the front and the idle screw is set all the way in. Not sure if the picture is good enough.. Does it needs a couple more threads ? Or should I focus on pilot and go down a size? This is my first time jetting. Before this it had 280 mains and I could not read the pilots at all... Would not idle but would run if I kept throttle in it. Both pipes got hot, fairly equally. Left side was a little hotter after a couple minutes... but again I just had to hold the throttle. With the sync tool I just held it up there to see what it was doin...I held throttle steady and left carb was reading like 1 while the right was around 7-7.5. But that was just me trying to act like I knew where I was going heh. Was trying to go ride today but not sure I should like this Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Edited May 26, 2014 by four2err0r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 after you get the idle set ( it will probably be around 4-6 on that synch tool. ) you need to set your cable pull. this is one of the things i think a LOT of people forget. looking at your pic one cable adjuster is way up the other is bottomed out. i personally screw them in all the way then set by eye that they are pulling up pretty close. then after you have your idle set up and your slow jet is the right size ( by listening to the motor using the idle air mixture screw) you can set the cable pull. i give it a very small amount of throttle enough that i can see the sych tool raise up then hold it at that throttle and switch back and forth on the carbs. one will be lower than the other adjust the tops till they come just off idle at the same reading. tighten the adjuster nuts then set your cable slack. you want a small amount of slack for turning but not so much that you have to push the throttle cable in a ways before it rev's. this is with the adjuster at the thumb throttle. THEN if you still have it the throttle stop screw can be set. push the thorttle in till it bottoms out then adjust the stop screw in till you feel it hit the thumb lever inside the housing. then adjust it in just a tad then you are hitting the stop instead of pulling on the cable. your cables will last a lot longer by doing this. and of course set the stops nut that keeps it from moving. if you get your idle set dead on you will hear a difference in the way the motor sounds it will also come off idle a million times better when your riding it. this small tuning aid ( synch tool) is one of the best you can get and use. doing this completely will result in a much better running and more reliable motor. y9ou can go back about once every few months and check it again. things move around and those lil stop screws wear some too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four2err0r Posted May 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Thanks camatv This is how it turned out... the left side gets a little bit hotter and puts out more smoke than the right Overall it sounds good to me but I'm new to the game and just want it to be fine tuned #30 - pilot jets#290 main jetclip is 3rd notch down-Air ScrewLeft carb - 1.5 turnsRight Carb - 1.75 turnselevation 1200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 ok in the vid iit looks like the idle is ok. sounds really close on the throttle pick up. after you set the throttle do the cable pull. if you like make a vid of doing that. if i was better at making vids and could figure out how to post them i would make a nice synch instructional. hell i could do a whole " tune yo shit up " series HA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four2err0r Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Lol I can help out with that, it's easy! I'm sure there is an easier way but this is what I do... Use my phone to make video, and upload to Google Drive. Then I put it in my computer Then I use my same Gmail / drive account to upload it to YouTube. I don't have the experience or knowledge yet, but eventually I'll do some more detailed how to videos. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strm Trpr Posted June 5, 2014 Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 shouldn't the airscrews be turned out the same number of times? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four2err0r Posted June 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2014 Update on that Strm Trpr, they are both at 1.5 right now. Going to post another video of some runs on it today after work... Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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