Why So Many Moderators ?

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I see it like this, Moderators are a good thing if they dont use it for their own use. To moderate is to keep the site moving smoothly. If someone is cursing in their post, or if things get ugly in other ways (within moderation i.e. racial things and such should be taken care of) I think things should be let go. If a topic is in the wrong forum, it should be moved to where it belongs. If things get personal, it should only be deleted after those involved are talked to and agree on it, or ask to have it removed. They should be warned to take it elsewhere as well.

 

That way when holyman made that post....if it got deleted he would know that brooke took some offense to it in some way. If a post is something not about a banshee, it should be put in general discussion, with the moderator stating why it was moved.

 

I like this forum being one of freedom, and I like to be able to say what I want to say, without the fear of having someone delete it on me. I've never gotten along with people that have power over me or what I do, and dont feel a moderator should be a person that is in that position. A moderator should be looked at as more of a sorter, spam watcher, and referee.

 

And with the moderator being a referee in mind, it puts it into more of a game. We have players, fans, and referees. In certain topics we have arguments, drama, etc and its an added dimension to the site. I like being a fan in that aspect. I like playing as well, and I'm sure I'd make a good referee.

 

I just dont want to see a dynamic forum go downhill because of control.

 

And in the good words of Fez: Thank you, and good day........I SAID GOOD DAY!

[NYUK]

it s already turning into BLUETRAXX FOR BANSHEES. if you ask me you got some foxes guarding the henhouse. HQ WAS FINE.i could see a few mods. but the way it s going and the few post i seen by some mods, the powers already gone straight to their heads.

[Badbanshee_boy]

i dont mind the mods but like they said it's turning into bt, and on bt you cant sy anything without getting hassled by the mods. once they get the power they just go crazy. maby it's a good thing maybe it's bad let's just hope they will be able to handle the power

[BenBB]

Huh...all I noticed was a couple threads moved around (and some that should be moved but haven't)...whatever, just don't nuke MY threads (I think about the only ones I start are the wallpapers, heh) dammit!!

[sneeky]

do mods have the ability to change posts i think they should be able to add text in a different colour so that way when someone says smoething wrong they can just change it for example

 

please click this link

 

would be changed to

 

please click this link (red, this is a non banshee related link and is not relevent)

 

just a thought

 

rather than just deleting the post.

[evil]

wheres all the love mannnn

[Meat]

She's(brooke) one of the co-founders

 

No she's not, she hasnt been with the BHQ for 1\4th the time BHQ has been around.

 

Maybe the rift between Brooke and Lee isn't cured yet.

So whats the story, when she left I didnt bother to ask why.

 

Holyman I seen your thread about Brooke lurking on the site, but yes its been deleted I guess.

 

Kinda off topic but will "Jer\Quick\Balony" and "Toomeyshee87" be allowed to post on this forum now ?

 

And some advice to the moderators of the mighty BHQ forum. Over-moderating sucks and alot of times it ruins good forums, make wise choices. The BansheeHQ forum is my favorite forum, and there's many reasons why BHQ kicks ass, the first being all the great people here, another reason is all the knowledge found here, and another reason WAS..... because there are no moderators and you can say or do almost whatever you please. I know for a fact that all the mods are great assets to this forum and I dont expect to see any moderating bullshit. But.... give it a year or so and we'll see what happens to the moderated BHQ. For cryin' out loud you cant even say\spell f*ck anymore.

 

 

NYUK wrote......

it s already turning into BLUETRAXX FOR BANSHEES. if you ask me you got some foxes guarding the henhouse. HQ WAS FINE.i could see a few mods. but the way it s going and the few post i seen by some mods, the powers already gone straight to their heads.

 

I agree that HQ WAS FINE the way it was. Could you tell us why you think its "turnin' into BT for Banshees" and why you think the powers allready gone to their heads. Id love to hear you reasoning for your post...... and stirr up a little controversy

 

"Mighty Abyss"\"." I agree with alot of what you wrote, good post bro.

[evil]

meat, why didnt you become a mod ? your always checking people and correcting them when there wrong and have tons of knowledge on the shee, seems like something you might like ? or would be good at.

 

., i agree with you also. later

[Screamin_Demon]

I'll admit... i've been on some sites where you couldn't do anything without a mod deleting or changing a post. I've tested out what 'powers' Lee has given us, and basically, it's just simple control to help keep offtopic posts out of the way. I myself was bored one night shortly after being deemed moderator and was doing some tests.... i went through and cleaned out alot of the posts in general which didn't belong in there. There is no option to ban anyone that I'm aware of (wish there was for spammers like deathpetal and a few other repeat violators). I have deleted a thread or two, but they were the outwar threads which many people had problems with.

 

I don't have alot of mechanical knowledge to attribute to this wonderful site like some of you have, so this is a way to help contribute the best way I can. I didn't ask to be considered for the mod position to have "power" over anyone, but I myself was getting kind of upset when I'd go to look in the forums and find stuff there that didn't belong. It was a bother and annoyance. If anyone is aggitated that a mod moved/deleted their thread... the issue can be addressed. The thread may have been better suited in a different forum where more people with that knowledge see it. Some may be deleted because of repeat warnings about content, or hiding a link for a stupid game such as outwar and claiming it's something else. That's how I look at this... my contribution is attempting to keep this site free from junk, and stuff in the right place so everyone can be happy. If someone has a problem with me... tell me. PM, email, whatever... let me know what the problem is you have with me. If it's legit... it'll be considered with an open mind... if there's no point what-so-ever, it'll still be considered with an open mind, but to a smaller extent.

 

I myself don't forsee any issues with the current mods selected. All are long time posters, and have contributed to the site in one way or another. Granted, disputs may have arose between someone else, and one of the mods in the past, and the mod may have hard feelings toward that other member, but I highly doubt that action would be taken against that member for issues in the past. If there is an issue with a certian mod... take that up with them in private... there isn't a need for arguments cluttering the forums up. If the problem persists, notify another mod, or Lee himself. Lee has the governing right to take action against any mod who he sees as unfit to keep their position.

 

 

 

 

On a side note... to help with the question of 'why so many mods,' today, my email had several reports about a certian thread in the images section titled "700cc banshee." The thread resulted in 10 complaints being sent about it within a 30 min. time span from what I gathered on the tagged times. Some of you may have seen the thread and found out it was a link to an outwar site, some may not have because as soon as it was brought to my attention, it was deleted. A warning was given to the thread maker about using the HQ as a source of hits for outwar. That post was just in one section, and the complaints were just on that one topic. What if more threads spawn reports like that, but only in multiple sections, for multiple posts? A few people would find that hard to manage the forums and removed the inapporpriate material. Since there are 10 mods total, and Lee, issues with posts can be resolved quicker. That's the whole point of the moderators.

[evil]

sweet post screamin, i dont really go to bluetrax or planet sand or any other atv site so im not sure of all the bs that goes on. i found the hq quite some time ago and have been here ever since. i didnt know that moderators were hated so much can you find in your hearts to forgive me ! screamin, you state you dont have much knowledge to give back to the hq'ers but everytime someone has a paint question i send them your way and there questions get answered. take that for what its worth, we all give back, unless you spam or play outwar ! later

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Screamin wrote....

 

and basically, it's just simple control to help keep offtopic posts out of the way. I myself was bored one night shortly after being deemed moderator and was doing some tests.... i went through and cleaned out alot of the posts in general which didn't belong in there.

 

That right there is exactly what i'm talking about. If it doesnt belong in general.....where does it belong? I could see moving a post from general to a better suited section, but are you going to delete absolut's post because he wrote about having a son and it doesnt have anything to do with a banshee? Or is it o.k. because he said he might have to sell his shee to afford diapers?

 

A forum just talking about banshees is a communist forum. We need to be able to talk about other things as well. We dont have single track minds, we are a community of people that have something in common, and granted banshee talk should be the number one thing talked about, but it shouldnt be the only thing.

 

Another thing that comes to my mind, take Nyuk for instance, he's selling his pw80 and he put it up in the for sale section. It didnt get deleted because he's a known person on the site, and I believe thats fine. People that have been on the site for a while and are known should be able to do things like that. And I agree the for sale sections should be for the most part about banshee stuff. If someone comes on here with 5-10 posts trying to sell other crap etc etc....it should probably be dealt with.

 

A non banshee for sale section would be nice as well, and if you only want banshee stuff in the general discussion area, we need an area that we can talk about non banshee stuff.

[Screamin_Demon]

Good point... but here's what I see when I read the description of the general section: "Anything that does not include modifying your Banshee or your riding trips and events." The general section of a forum is used for posts that have no other place. In reference to Absolut's post about his child... that falls into the general category and is the reason why it's still there. God knows his child isn't a modification to his shee or a riding trip (well... was created by riding anyways ). What I was referring to by posts that I moved that didn't belong in the general section was posts about repairs, modifications, ebay auctions, riding trips, etc... Those have their own categories and need to be posted their.

 

I completely agree with you on the subject of keeping the site open to other discussions besides just banshees. In reference to NYUK's post about selling a PW80, I don't think him being a longterm member has anything to do with the post not being deleted. I think it's more along the lines of he may be selling for money for his banshee. Had he posted it in the general section, or online auction watch... still would have fit with no issues. Needless to say, Lee is the one who makes the sections, and decides what content goes in them.

[Bigairee]

I agree with deleting off topic posts to some extent. There is no off topic post in general discussion. For that reason I added text (as suggested by sneeky) to say it was a link to outwar. I only changed it and didn't delete is so that everyone could see this kid is an idiot. I guess it doesn't matter anymore if someone deleted it.

[txblueshee]

Damd, I didn't know mods were hated so much. I didn't know that we could delete threads until about 30mins. ago . I have only used my power once and that was to move the "click here if you play outwar" thread. That was the first post about it so I just left it be over to general discussion. I recieved about 10 complaints in 15mins. about the kid spamming outwar in all of the other forums, he was warned repeatedly and showed no signs of stopping. I don't think he's still around. If that sounds like a "power trip" to ya'll then explain to me why, b/c I can't see it.

 

 

Mike

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thats fine, I dont have any problems with any of that, and I'm not hating on you guys. When you said "cleaned" I thought you meant deleted because they didnt have anything to do with banshees.

 

I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, I'm just trying to address issues we've had with moderators, and trying to nip everything in the butt that could possibly lead to anything bad in the future.

 

It's the beginning of having moderators, and we're watching is all, and communicating on what is wanted with the site, and what is not. It's not only lee's site, It's OUR site.

 

I only used Nyuk's thing in for sale as something as of late. Say for example I'm trying to sell my girlfriends 400ex because we're having another child or trying to buy a new house or something. I wouldnt want to be afraid to have my post deleted because its not banshee related. I've been part of these forums for a long time and feel its another outlet to be able to maybe sell the quad.

 

Or say my girlfriend wants to go riding....and someone on here is in the position above. They post that they're selling one, and I'm interested in it but havent seen it in other forums or ebay or whatever.