trickedcarbine Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Well, I haven't been able to get this thing sorted out after a couple of angry thrash sessions I am ready to ask for help. The bike is getting supper erratic spark and I have had no luck at all getting it to even try to fire. Motor is fresh rebuild. Sealed up nice and has great compression. Here is a list of stuff that I have done. I'm hoping some one has one last suggestion I don't know about. I have also bought a new harness from Compulsive concepts and even tried swapping all components from another running bike. I'm out of ideas. Trouble shooting list: Flywheel and key (no rattles good magnetically) Stator (ohmed and tried 4 known good stators) Pick up and pick up gap (even filed nubs even) Wiring harness Un wrapped and gone through Plugs and connectors cleaned and greased New spark plugs Clipped plug wire ends where boots thread in New plug boots Ohmed and tried several known coils Coil surface grounded and cleaned w/ dielectric Harness ground cleaned up Tors/park brake/key/tps/ all deleted Disconnected the tether switch Test kill switchTrouble shooting Swapped out 3 good running CDI's At the CDI harness side connector, check for continuity between the red/black wire and the black wire. You should have continuity with the key on. (or bypassed) If no continuity, there's your problem. If that checks, check between the black/white wire and the black wire. That's your kill switch. It should be open circuit for it to run. You got it. We noted and have posted many times, the typo that Clymer did in their manuals. Primary is from blade connector to blade connector and secondary is from plug wire to plug wire. Remember to remove the plug caps and test separately. They are known for failures . Remember also to unclip the wires completely from the coil and test "ONLY" the coil when you get a bad reading. Wires shit out commonly, the coil itself rarely fails. your ignition has 4 wires. cut the ignition off. the black with white stripe and red with brown stripe need to be soldered . then solder the red and brown wires so you then have 2 wires. wrap them up in electrical tape (NOT TOUCHING) then your ignition will be eliminated. the coil grounds where it mounts, and there is one on the back of the timing plate- it's the wire clamp. that is the whole engine ground. there is also one by the voltage regulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullThrottle_06' Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 I'm a little confused here, but did you just ask a question and then answer it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) That is the list of stuff I've tried, the paragraphs in the list are just quotes from very old threads. Edited April 6, 2014 by trickedcarbine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppedupandcutdown Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 your ignition has 4 wires. cut the ignition off. the black with white stripe and red with brown stripe need to be soldered . then solder the red and brown wires so you then have 2 wires. wrap them up in electrical tape (NOT TOUCHING) then your ignition will be eliminated. To run - the red/black wire to ground, the white/black cannot be grounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 That would be nullified with a drag harness right? I went through the stock harness twice hoping to find some issue and all was cool. I now have a bare bones harness from compulsive concepts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 sure flywheel is seated good on the key had to hunt same issue ended up being a sheared key Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m671054 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Powdercoated cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted April 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Raw cases, think it could be that I used LOCTITE on the timing plate bolts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 no i always use loctite on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Try grounding the motor. Mine was a lawn mower starter cord. Was a little long so I had to run it around. But I run 4 dampeners so maybe the ground helps, maybe not. But I will say it dosent hurt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m671054 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 When you swapped stators you swap pick ups also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 have you tried, connecting the cdi straight to the stator, then running wires from the cdi to the coil ?. bypassing all the other wiring ? if youre not sure about earths, get some alligator clips and run some temp earths, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 have you tried, connecting the cdi straight to the stator, then running wires from the cdi to the coil ?. bypassing all the other wiring ? if youre not sure about earths, get some alligator clips and run some temp earths, That's such a weird term. I only here other countries state it like that. What do you think about is calling them grounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted April 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Got it figured out. The initial problem was the new stator and I found an issue with the new wiring harness as well. Firing nice and quick now! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk - now Free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m671054 Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Do elaborate on the site sponsors wiring harness with problems. What was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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