Justintoxicated Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 hey people, My banshee is all back together now...Im ready to start break in. I have 2 bottles of yamalube 2R (the big bottles 32 oz) I figured I would use them up first. Bad idea? The bike now has porting and cooing head with 20cc domes. I was thinking about switching to Amsoil or MC1 after that. Usualy I get my oil from rocky mountain but they do not sell amsoil. I also hear Bell Ray MC1 is pretty good stuff for a ported bike (Synthetic also) and they do sell it at www.rockymountainatv.com. Im not sure where to buy the amsoil from. Which oil will be better for a heavily ported engine? I have also been told castor works great but I hear other issues of it gumming up peoples cylinders. I ride mostly dry desert dunes like glamis. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 Castor is a very good oil, and just because rockymountain ATV doesn't sell something, doesn't mean it's junk. I run Klotz Super techniplate, and I have to drive all over hell to find the stuff when I need it. The last few times, i have just ordered a couple gallons from the dealer to save the hassle. I have to plan ahead, but oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamin_Banshee Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I have used Castor since I got my first shee. Have had abso. no problems w/ it. In my gas bikes I used Super M ( I think it is) and Castor 927 in my alky bike. BOth have always burned clean, and be very nice inside when I tear em down. Just my .02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holyman Posted November 11, 2003 Report Share Posted November 11, 2003 I sell Amsoil so let me know if you want to use that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassionRE Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 I'm with Screamin Banshee ,Maxima products are real performers, specifically the 927 Racing Castor...Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEVPOPPAPUMP Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 I previously used Castor 927 up until Patriot did my port work. Dan recommended using a non-synthetic for break in so I used Yamalube 2R for the first tank. Now I picked up a gallon of Torqo GP7 full synthetic, which Dan also recommended. Torqo is readily available from the place I shop at and its pretty darn reasonable for a gallon! He also recommended Motul but that stuff is way too expensive. The guys I ride with use Super M, Castor 927, and Yamalube 2R from what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 I use 2R to break in my motors and then switch to Amsoil 50-1 Racing Oil. I love the way the motor looks when I tear down. My group now has 7 shees running this oil and we have not had any oil related problems. We also go through quite a bit fewer spark plugs and have less oil mess to clean up on our silencers. When you compare the price to that of any other synthetic oil I have found (use a per gallon of premix price) and combine that with the super performance of the oil, I don't think it can be beat. I will not be switching anytime soon. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 I'm with Screamin Banshee ,Maxima products are real performers, specifically the 927 Racing Castor...Jim Have you ever tried the amsoil or Do I really need castor now? I mean how agressive is this porting? heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGSAL Posted November 12, 2003 Report Share Posted November 12, 2003 break it in with your yamalube and then use Castor 927... I was going through the same dilemma deciding which oil to use. I did tons and tons of research on the net and I kept finding that castor oil is one of the best types of oil to use as far as protection/film strength. As long as your bike is jetted correctly you should not have any problems as far as gumming is concerned. my buddy's 95 banshee is still on the same top end and he's always used Castor 927... still runs strong out at Glamis... yeah, I know, it's about to go anytime now.. hehehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00BANSHEE Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 In my gas bikes I used Super M.... What ratio do you mix the Super M at? I mix it at 32:1 and have alot of oil pouring out the back of both silencers. The bike runs awesome and the plugs look great, just alot of left over oil. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wassup350 Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 I currently use Bel Ray. How do you know what oil is better? Only difference i see in Bel Ray and amsoil is amsoil smokes a little less and has a different smell to it. But how do you know what protects better when pretty much every high performance oil manufacture says something along the lines of "superior antiscuff protection," or "Number one oil," or something like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 I currently use Bel Ray. How do you know what oil is better? Only difference i see in Bel Ray and amsoil is amsoil smokes a little less and has a different smell to it. But how do you know what protects better when pretty much every high performance oil manufacture says something along the lines of "superior antiscuff protection," or "Number one oil," or something like that? thats what I'd like to know heh. I still cant decide between these 3 oils. Im kinda afraid of the castor 927 gunking up my engine, but maybe with the port work that is the way to go. But How does it compare to a synthetic oil like MC1 or Amsoil? I don't ride much in damp locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blue Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 im palning on switching to klotz super techniplate from 2r as soon as i run out, anybody have any experiences with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamin_Banshee Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 In my gas bikes I used Super M.... What ratio do you mix the Super M at? I mix it at 32:1 and have alot of oil pouring out the back of both silencers. The bike runs awesome and the plugs look great, just alot of left over oil. Thanks. In the gas bikes we usually mixed at 40:1, have gone as far as 50:1 with no noticable side affects. I preffer a little more oil than really needed, just for the safety factor. I would rather clean a little oil off the pipes, then rebuild the engine. Justin, if it was me I would ask the builder ( I think he gave his input allready) a couple of oils that he suggests to use. Try them and find the one that my motor and I both agree on. I would then run that one like its goin out of style... The thread here is one of those personal prefference threads, kinda like which pipes are better...Everyone has there own opinion on which is better and why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 14, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 In my gas bikes I used Super M.... What ratio do you mix the Super M at? I mix it at 32:1 and have alot of oil pouring out the back of both silencers. The bike runs awesome and the plugs look great, just alot of left over oil. Thanks. In the gas bikes we usually mixed at 40:1, have gone as far as 50:1 with no noticable side affects. I preffer a little more oil than really needed, just for the safety factor. I would rather clean a little oil off the pipes, then rebuild the engine. Justin, if it was me I would ask the builder ( I think he gave his input allready) a couple of oils that he suggests to use. Try them and find the one that my motor and I both agree on. I would then run that one like its goin out of style... The thread here is one of those personal prefference threads, kinda like which pipes are better...Everyone has there own opinion on which is better and why. but isn't there some key differences from bean oil and full synthetic like amsoil or MC1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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