2005shee Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 well I was riding around my block the other day and my fourwheeler was running perfect. I went to stop at the bottom of my hill and realized the clutch wasn't pulling at all so I had to ride back homeand just stay in second gear. upon inspection I realized the adjuster pin with the Phillips head had been stripped on the threads and the nut was loose on it. I got a new bolt and when putting it on realized the ball was stuck inside and wouldn't come out, but it will turn, only slightly in one direction back and forth but it will move so its not welded together but there are metal shavings and a slightly ground down spot on the ball from what I can see. also I can move the clutch with a full pull when pushing on the ball with the other rod but when I put plates and spring on to see what happened it only pulled a tiny bit. the adjuster arm moves fully too so im almost positive it has to do with the rod or ball. any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastrykiller Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Take the outer plate of the clutch and tit the bike on its right side. If the rod and ball won't come out, there is your answer. Flip it on it's left side and take a flat head screwdriver and carefully manipulate the ball and see just how bad it is stuck. Sometimes you can separate them and most of the time they won't. Option two, the rod and ball are in good shape and you just didn't adjust the clutch correctly. The arm needs to line up with the arrow on the care. You adjust the arm by adjusting the "pancake bearing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005shee Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 there not sdtuck together as the ball will move slighty but they are stuck inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zillaguy Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 ^^That is your problem.... ^^^ They should come out easily, if they don't that is an issue guaranteed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005shee Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 well what can I do to get them out? will I have to split cases or is the an easier way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 one of those magnet antenna thingys work good there is a rod behind the ball that it can be welded too that you cannot see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Unless you can get it broke loose and out you will have to split the cases. You may be able to pull the actuator and use compressed air to remove it. Replace both the ball and rod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005shee Posted January 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 ya I know the balls not welded because I can move the ball a little bit but I think it may be stuck in a groove it made or somehting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastrykiller Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Just because you can move it doesn't mean it isn't welded. The end of the rod will weld itself to the ball. You won't be able to see it. The rod is smaller in diameter and will allow the ball to move but it's more than likely welded. I've seen them weld the rod to the actuator and the ball at the same time. Buy a six pack and take the motor out. Tear it apart and you will see what we are talking about. Until then, good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastrykiller Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 One more comment. If the actuator arm isn't allowing the rod to push the ball, you might have a bent actuator arm. Remove the bolt that holds the arm down and try to pull the arm out. Pull it out and post a pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005shee Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I took the motor out and pulled the actuator arm and it came out fine but its got a piece ground off it looks like not sure how to post pictures. also what all has to be taken off the motor to split the cases upside down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastrykiller Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 U have to pull the entire clutch off because you have a retainer clip that holds the top and bottom cases together and it's behind the clutch basket. Kick starter gear. Then all the upper an lower case bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastrykiller Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Flywheel and stator/stator plate as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005shee Posted January 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 another question. how do you guys normally take off your clutch basket nut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwriter Posted January 8, 2014 Report Share Posted January 8, 2014 Leave the steels and fibers in the basket. Push on the fibers with 1 hand. Hit the nut with an impact gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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