gunner0485 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 Hi all. ok so i had a slight knocking tapping noise start in my 01 shee last year. pulled the top end off and found the exhaust side of the pistons was hitting the cylinders. bored honed and new pistons later the noise was still there so i guessed is was crank bearings (they had a little play but still in spec) so a new crank later. (all new seals replaced and all trans bearings were all good including water pump bearing which was replaced ) the knocking /tapping noise was still there. errrrrrrrrrrr. lol in comes the clutch basket into all of this. There was a good amount of back and fourth movement of the gear and clutch basket, i cut off the rivets and im in the process of replacing the bushings but heres my main question. if you have ever seen inside a shee clutch basket there are coushins in there but there is not metal to metal contact possible to make any kind of noise from the basket and gear back and fourth movement but i have read they can make noise????? i have read up alot on these baskets but no one seems to have any kind of engine noise issue like im having. any info or help would be greatly appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 if your clutch basket cushions are shot and nothings there then there can be metal on metal. sure it isnt a valve knockin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted December 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 as in reeds? no it louder then reeds if thats what you talking about (valve). There were some of the cushings left. about 3/4 of new ones, so again how are people saying clutch baskets make noise when there are literaly no metal to metal contact points if there were some cushings left still??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 What is your plan for reattaching the backing plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uman1030 Posted December 28, 2013 Report Share Posted December 28, 2013 as in reeds? no it louder then reeds if thats what you talking about (valve). There were some of the cushings left. about 3/4 of new ones, so again how are people saying clutch baskets make noise when there are literaly no metal to metal contact points if there were some cushings left still??? the rivets or bolts that do connect it all are metal to metal regardless of some cushion being left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Th at's true they are all metal to metal but the only thing that moves is the gear can rotate in either direction if the cushions are bad. The metal rivets will are stationary with the basket. As far as re at aching the basket I bought a drill and tap for the basket itself and had the backing plate drilled with carbide bits be it is not just stainless steel. It much much harder then that. I bought tapered allen head bolts to use which will only leave about 3/16 of the bolt head showing above the backing plate. Which still leaves plenty of clearance for the idler gear with out hitting it. If and one would link to have any more info on rebuilding a stock basket let me know. Now for the noise issue I've been having. After I rebuilt my basket with good bushings and put it all together when I pulled in the clutch it made a different tapping noise the when it was released ( while running of coarse). Frustrated as hell I tore it down again and while the trans was sitting in the bottom half of the case I spun it fast with a air impact and eventually discovered it's was trans daft bearings. So I believe anyway. The noise wasn't continuous but when it happened it was the exact sound. So putting it together in 2 weeks or so and it better not make one unnormal noise. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Please for give the bad typing. I suck at it. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uman1030 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Sounds very plausible. Hope that solves your noise issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 you can clean up the hole a bit with a round stone so the bolt will seat farther in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 The clutch push rod and ball are notorious noise makers, along with the pancake bearing. I have noticed noise on many builds due to this. Its not ultra common but ball and rod are wear items and if rod is out of true it will give you diffrent noises when engaging lever or not due to the fact its boucing around inside tranny shaft. Also look at stock throw out bearing or pancake bearing outer lip where it slides into tranny shaft they wobble a bit when worn, all parts can be changed without splitting her open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Thanks for the ideas sleep. Lol take a look at them and see but be I spun the trans and he'd the noise with two different transmissions ( mine and a spare ) I really hoping that the bearings are my issue. I love my shee and I wouldn't have any other bike. It just been a battle with this bottom end noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hey couplex, I'm not sure if it would open the holes up a bit more or not be of how hard that backing plate is. Hell I hade to take it to a machine shop to have it drilled with carbide bits be it was so hard. I ruined 2 drill bits and a stepper bit. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Hey sleep quick question can any of the issues you mentioned can a tapping noise on a perfect beat? I'd say one every 1/8 every second ish. It's was Def a constant tapping not intermittent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleeper06 Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 First you would need a true stand to check bend on rod I have found quite a few out of wack. Without me personally hearing noise hard to tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner0485 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Yea I under stand that. If you have ever herd a rod knocking in a car or truck. It really close but a bit deeper sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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