jbooker82 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Klotz Flexdrive.. Changed once a year.. Sometimes. Shits good and I don't see much material at all. I've changed it maybe 4 times in the 6 yrs I've had it. It's not cheap, but why change it ever other ride if u don't have to for a few more bucks? Thats what I run as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Savage nothing against what you said but I have always been under the impression that ATF is too thin and it increases friction Yea but just about every light duity car / pickup manual transmission made since the 80's specify a ATF oil. The reason you need a wet clutch oil is to keep the clutch fibers from being loaded up with solid lubercants that cause clutch slip. Engine oils that are labled energy conserving contain Molybedium Disulfied. It is a metalic lubercant that will get imbeded in to clutch fibers and cause slippage. You cant remove it by doing a flush once its in there is in there for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StretchTHMC Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm new to the Shee world and 2 strokes in general but I do ride a custom chopper and use Red line with shock proof in my tranny and primary...any thoughts? would it even work in the shee? Just asking cuz I love it in the big bike and I always have it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87sheerips Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 Any oil will work man, I am with savage on this topic. I've used gear saver, 10-30, ATF and see no difference. ATF is fine, plus I use it in my plow, truck trans, etc. so I have many uses for that shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Bel Ray Gear Saver, tried the golden spectro, but it seemed alot thinner and I had some slippage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
registered user Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yea but just about every light duity car / pickup manual transmission made since the 80's specify a ATF oil. The reason you need a wet clutch oil is to keep the clutch fibers from being loaded up with solid lubercants that cause clutch slip. Engine oils that are labled energy conserving contain Molybedium Disulfied. It is a metalic lubercant that will get imbeded in to clutch fibers and cause slippage. You cant remove it by doing a flush once its in there is in there for good. plenty of automobiles well after 1980 were also using motor oil and gear oil in manual trannys. everyone has a preference that they think is better than everyone else but i think we can safely say atv trans will do just fine on most any type of fluid. energy conserving supposedly doesnt do well with the clutch plates but i have no direct experience with that . but i do have direct experience with EP gear oils and fiber clutch plates. aparently it causes isseues with the plates or so i was told but ive since proven that to be nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooker82 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I was just stating the atf in manual car transmissions to debunk the myth that it isn't heavy enough for gear lubercation. Molybdenum Disulfied is one of the ingredients in energy conserving oil that causes wet clutchs to slip. It is a metallic lubercant that loads up clutch fibers. Once it's in there you really can't flush it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I worked in tranny shops, THAT^ is 100% true.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstaton1983 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I have always used atf in all my banshees with no premature clutch wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Chad Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I also heard they grip Better with no oil, helps U launch and get the hole shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshb Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Use type f atf. I have ran it in several of my bikes with no problems or "creep". Plus it's very cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Ive ran atf for along time. As far as more wear until proof is posted gtfo. Atf is used in shit rated for more torque than a banshee will ever make. I originally switched as a recommendation to improve clutch life in the sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE420 Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Oil shmoil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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