trickedcarbine Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 This is true ^, but I will admit I don't have the balls to tune a car with any kind of boost without some kind of A/F gauge present. Preferably an AEM EUGO. Super nice piece although there are other nice units out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 I used to then i got smart HOWEVER they are not fool proof if you dont know how it works and how to read what it tells you. I ama huge fan of the aem unit. Never a fuckin problem unlike the innovate junk. Its been in 2 cars including one that occasionally does daily driver duties for the last 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 And megasquirt loves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowlyOilBurner Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 What Innovate setup did you use? I've had luck with the LM-2's, but that's a "meter/data logger", not a guage. Maybe the gauges suck? Also, I have nothing bad at all to say about the AEM uego's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 2 stroke turbo and 4 stroke turbo are very different animals. ( in my opinion) the tuning and lack of on the fly fuel management is what i would consider the major problem with one good pass then one bad pass. also the lack of modern setup's compared to cars i think is whats hurting them also. plus on a hill or a long stretch the turbo's really shine. they are able to get the turbo spun up then hold the boost for a longer period of time shear's turbosetup from the vids i have seen is very impressive. you can also call them and see what they have to say. a 200hp cub is no joke i also have my own theories that i'm thinking next year will get put to test. ( different carberator set, ups different pipe configurations) they may work they may not work i'm not going to post details for ridicule from people that have tried and failed with whats available now. thats why they are theories and not fact. you cannot get an idear to work without testing testing testing... i mean really i bet i am the only person in the world with a Weber Ferrari carb on a teryx. from everything i read they wouldnt work they ran lean and they were too big. after doing my own research and figuring out how the carb actually works i was able to get it jetted in pretty damn good. ( after fabing a complete intake, and everything that goes with that) if you want turbo and injection call gigot racing. in that HiPer magazine add he is listed in there. there is some story to as why those couple of companies are listed together. in my OPINION unless the fuel management is totally figured out it will never make clean passes back to back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Gigot is mentioned in almost every successful efi set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 So a throttle body or 2. probably 4 injectors. microsquirt. streetbike stator under a banshee flywheel... I myself dont see that many differences. i see high hp to displacement and the issues it brings including consistancy and tuning headaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 call tyson racing or mat shearer and be prepared to spend 8k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 4 strokes have valves,, 2 strokes do not. the piston is the valve. 4 strokes bottom end is only pressurized by the change in cc of the lower end from piston movement. 2 stroke the underside of the piston is also pressurized. so as the piston is coming down it has to fight the pressurization from the turbocharger a pipe does not pressurize the lower end on the down stroke. it can actually put a vacuum on the bottom end depending on how well it is designed. a very very long time ago i had envisioned a turbo charged 2 stroke that was fed directilly through the transfer's no intake no connection between the bottom end and the top end.. at that time i was told i was a moron and it would never work and how would i get around all these issues. then i head about and read about 2 stroke diesel's they work in a similar way. i'd agree unless yoru ready to spend around 3500+ and then deal with tunning and broken parts think again.. then again i might sell the 3 boxes of parts i have amassed. ( seriously thinking about just dumping all my atv stuff and starting on old hot rods) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coupelx Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Old 2 stroke diesels had a positive displacement blower to move the air. Others were spun up with another engine until they would run on their own. Im not talking mechanically different. The discussion is difficulties in keeping one running half assed consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimbert Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 call tyson racing or mat shearer and be prepared to spend 8k ....not 8k from Tyson... Just for the record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryv4 Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 for a frame up build it is. tyson qouted me 5k to do my tranny case electrical and the whole turbo setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 and if you get a few runs out of the trans your doing good ( so i hear) i didn't look into the diesel motors to close. they are interesting for sure.. what about just doing a turbine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimbert Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) for a frame up build it is. tyson qouted me 5k to do my tranny case electrical and the whole turbo setup. Thought you meant just for the turbo setup. +/-8k to build a whole bike with 150hp isn't a bad deal! Edited October 16, 2013 by Stimbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fappy'97 Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Thought you meant just for the turbo setup. +/-8k to build a whole bike with 150hp isn't a bad deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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