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2006 Banshee Tuning Issues - REALLY need help/advice!


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Thanks guys, appreciate all the help.  So I'll be sure to check the choke tube as recommended and have the needles and seats checked in both carbs, along with the checking the slides.  I did get new needles from Toomey when I got the T5 Pipe Kit, but will double check everything again.  Such a bummer that such a beautiful bike won't run properly, she just sits unscathed in my garage.  

 

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@ TrickedCarbine - I did remove the parking brake and put the delete in the rear when I installed my Renthal Fatbars and AVS Shorty Levers, but have not yet gotten the T.O.R.S taken off, but plan on doing so very soon.  

 

@ hoppedupandcutdown - Thanks for the note, will be sure to check, and nice looking bike!  What kind of pipes are you running?  

 

Lastly, a few of you have asked about the new OEM parts that I took off my bike, and yes, I do still have all of them sitting boxed up in my garage.  I replied to each of you individually, be happy to work something out if I have something one of you need.  And I also plan on selling my brand new DG Fatboy Nerf Bars in powder coated black if anyone is interested.  Paid $225 for them but am going to go with a different style, the kind that incorporate the steel heel guard so I can take my black plastic ones off.  If anyone is interested, let me know.  Will post pics of the bike and parts here in a bit, just have to resize them.  

 

~cw

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@ Dave 5.0 - I actually just emailed with Power Yamaha in Sublimity, Oregon, and they agreed to take another look free of charge (I do NOT want to spend anymore money trying to get this bike running properly, have already spent a considerable amount), but that being said, where do you live and do you have the means to tune these bikes in your garage?  I know it's likely one simple, overlooked thing as this bike is seriously factory new, but nobody can seem to figure it out, not sure why.  Happy to post pics but how do I resize to do so?  Do I have to use an external hosting service?  None of mine would upload when I tried.  The bike is a work of beauty though :)

 

Power Yamaha is more clueless about banshees than you are... FFS these machines have not been on a showroom floor for 6-7 years now. Their techs barely knew enough to get them out of the crates back then. DO NOT TAKE IT TO THEM.... There are VERY FEW dealers in this country that are have good knowledge of a banshee. Heres GREAT idea. Take it to one of the 4-5 builders in this state and have them make it run for you!

 

And why in the fuck did you list all your mods with prices? And why did you list mods that have nothing to do with the motor? Last I checked fenders and handlebars did make the pistons go up and down. Maybe Im wrong?

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Here's when I first got it from my neighbor, three months ago or so:  

 

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Power Yamaha is more clueless about banshees than you are... FFS these machines have not been on a showroom floor for 6-7 years now. Their techs barely knew enough to get them out of the crates back then. DO NOT TAKE IT TO THEM.... There are VERY FEW dealers in this country that are have good knowledge of a banshee. Heres GREAT idea. Take it to one of the 4-5 builders in this state and have them make it run for you!

 

And why in the fuck did you list all your mods with prices? And why did you list mods that have nothing to do with the motor? Last I checked fenders and handlebars did make the pistons go up and down. Maybe Im wrong?

If you actually took the time to read what I wrote when I first posted, I said "please ignore the prices noted along with the mod list, it was itemized for a different purpose and I didn't want to take the time to edit all of it out."  So that's why the fuck I listed the prices, so take it easy.   I also stated I was looking for help/advice, if there's something about my post you don't like, just ignore it as your pointless rant was about as far from constructive as possible.  

 

The reason I'm taking it back to Power Yamaha is I've already sunk tons of cash into this bike and would rather not pay a different shop, i.e. Top Dog Motors, to do all of the work again and shell out another $300-$500.  Does that make more sense to you?  I've even had two different private mechanics come to my garage and work on it, guys that likely have as much experience as any other enthusiast on this website, and they can't seem to nail the problem either.  I also paid each one of them $200 for coming to my place and taking their time to help me out.  And I'm fairly certain at least a couple of the certified tech's at Power Yamaha must MIGHT own a Banshee or three, and have POSSIBLY worked on them in the past, but you're probably right, since they haven't been on a showroom floor for 7 years, they likely hardly even know these bikes exist or what a two-stroke twin engine even does.  They probably don't even know how to mix fuel since all they've ever worked on is 4-Strokes and even more exclusively, fuel injected engines.  I might as well have taken it to Kuni BMW and had them do the work.  Hindsights always 20/20 though, right?  FFS! 

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Just to be clear, different needle than your toomey, this one shuts off the fuel when the float rises, it has rubber tip that wears, dries out. Thanks for the complement - those are Original Rocket pipes.

Gotcha, thanks for the clarification.  What exactly is that needle called?  It does sound like the right carb is drowning in fuel and then of course bogs down and eventually dies.  Like I had said before, getting out of first gear is literally impossible as any low band throttle when idling basically kills the engine.  It makes trying to ride it up into the bed of my 3/4 ton a huge pain, nearly impossible.  

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