Uf21 Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 When my banshee is cold it is an absolute bitch to start, I kick at least 30 times before it even wants to start and when it does it turns off within 5 seconds then I start it again, and it turns off again, everytime I start it, it stays on a bit longer till eventually it doesn't turn off. I recorded a short video of what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqQL-GETAOQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player Also I turned the knobs on the tors half a turn, does this idle sound too high? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1glczX1D-lg&feature=youtube_gdata_player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Trash the tors. Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbeat Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 old fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uf21 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 rejet for colder temps? it's jetted for cold temps. old fuel Fuel is only 2 weeks old. what he said if you still have it.. didnt think of that seeing msot people get rid of it right away Well I haven't had any problems with it yet so I don't see a need to spend money on changing it just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 wait......you say its jetted for cold temps, but your out there taking the video and it doesn't look cold. Is it jetted for cold or for warm. OR is it jetted CORRECTLY for the current temps. That idle sounds low to me.........Id check jetting first then id raise that idle.......these are 2 strokes....not 4 strokes. They need rpm to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uf21 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 wait......you say its jetted for cold temps, but your out there taking the video and it doesn't look cold. Is it jetted for cold or for warm. OR is it jetted CORRECTLY for the current temps. That idle sounds low to me.........Id check jetting first then id raise that idle.......these are 2 strokes....not 4 strokes. They need rpm to run. How can you tell if it's cold or not by a video? We're in the middle of winter at the moment. Only thing is my riding spot is 4000ft above sea level while at home (in the video) it is 100ft above sea level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakar Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 thats an extreme change and alt. imo id check your jeting and scub/check your carbs to start .then post you mods ,temp,alt and there some smart dudes on here that'll get yah close. goodluck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdod101 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 One thing I've heard of is what elevation your pump gas is being used at. If you fill up at 100 fr and ride at 4000ft that can affect a lot of things. I think someone else can chime in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 I bet if you went to your riding spot it will start easy. Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastbanshee8 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 Hard starting issues are a sign that it's too lean on the pilot, or your air mixture screws are open more than they should be. What size pilot jets are in the carbs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uf21 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 thats an extreme change and alt. imo id check your jeting and scub/check your carbs to start .then post you mods ,temp,alt and there some smart dudes on here that'll get yah close. goodluck Only mods are dmc 916 pipes and k&n filter with lid on and no holes. Riding temps are between 40F - 65F I bet if you went to your riding spot it will start easy. Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2 No, it happens at my riding spot, I made the video at home cause the problem annoys me a lot. Hard starting issues are a sign that it's too lean on the pilot, or your air mixture screws are open more than they should be. What size pilot jets are in the carbs? They're 27.5 pilots. It used to start easy but over the last few months it's like its just getting harder to start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 What's your compression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uf21 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 What's your compression? Don't know. How do I check compression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted July 19, 2013 Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 With a compression gauge. -Unscrew spark plug, screw in comp. gauge. Try for gauge with threads about same length as spark plug if possible. -hold throttle wide open. -kick. -kick. - a few more kicks. One last one and make sure gauge doesn't move. And one for good luck after. -maintain the open throttle position during the 3 previous steps. - read gauge. -report back and let everyone know what you have as a reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uf21 Posted July 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2013 With a compression gauge. -Unscrew spark plug, screw in comp. gauge. Try for gauge with threads about same length as spark plug if possible. -hold throttle wide open. -kick. -kick. - a few more kicks. One last one and make sure gauge doesn't move. And one for good luck after. -maintain the open throttle position during the 3 previous steps. - read gauge. -report back and let everyone know what you have as a reading. Will do, will any compression gauge work? Also does both spark plugs need to be removed, should engine be cold or warm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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