4 mil HJR akly bike

[fappy'97]

Yea what cc class?

Will probably just run at T&T.

[locogato11283]

Tyler, if you really think that clutch tuning is for 300' or asphalt. Then stay under your rock & suck dirt. It's being used in hill shooting, trail bikes, desert riding & ice racing to name a few.

 

Now, if you don't like the clutch tuning thread with close to 14,000 views with very little drama. Then delete the thread, because it's not meeting your none know-it-all needs. Apparently there's a need for it, just like other threads for the HQ Member's. You & other's might not agree with it, but a good many do.

 

For those who do not like it, suck some clutch sediments!

 

OH, I forgot to add trail riding and duning to the list! Sorry!

 

Where you got all this nonsense is beyond me.

 

I was simply stating that the number of people who come here for simple beginner type mods far outweighs the ones who come here for clutch tuning, at any level.

 

I NEVER said your thread wasn't meeting needs or that it sucked.

 

Go back to work!

[SlowerThanYou]

Tyler, are you saying BHQ is a beginners site?

 

LOL!

[#1JUANstunna]

Tyler, are you saying BHQ is a beginners site?

and for retards. like everyone posting in this thread, including myself.

[WINDYCITYJOHN400]

Let's be realistic here.. The ratio of guys needing info about TORS removal is probably a lot higher than guys needing to know how to  set up a clutch for 300' sand or 1/8 mile asphalt.

 

It's not that the TORS type threads aren't helpful, it's that you're way past that level in terms of bike set up.

 

You're going to be far more interested in high performance technical threads than the every day common problem threads.

 

 

 

I agree completely! There are FAR more people in need of basic info than the more advanced stuff.

 

 

Tyler, if you really think that clutch tuning is for 300' or asphalt. Then stay under your rock & suck dirt. It's being used in hill shooting, trail bikes, desert riding & ice racing to name a few.

 

Now, if you don't like the clutch tuning thread with close to 14,000 views with very little drama. Then delete the thread, because it's not meeting your none know-it-all needs. Apparently there's a need for it, just like other threads for the HQ Member's. You & other's might not agree with it, but a good many do.

 

For those who do not like it, suck some clutch sediments!

 

Here is another example of someone who is frustrated from dealing with the drama that comes with sharing info.

People post info and next thing you know you have guys saying "I've been doing this 20 years and never needed to do all that....I do it my way FTW....Timeslips or STFU.....etc."

 

He can explain in detail the cause and effects of the topic he's covering and can explain in detail the steps he has tried and is sharing the hows and whys of his opinion. (This somehow bothers some who slap all the best parts together and assume they have a top tuned item.)

There is ALWAYS room to learn more and get more from our machines. You don't have to jump straight to Cryo treating your entire tranny and doing everything Slow is talking about. But having a working understanding of the topic allows others to try his ideas in baby steps as the situation allows.

 

We could stand to have a few less posts about Boost Bottle Bashing and allow more veterans to share some higher level info without the peanut gallery getting into full contact verbal elbow throwing mode.

 

Not singling anyone out......... Just saying......

[fappy'97]

Tyler, are you saying BHQ is a beginners site?

That's why STY likes it here so much.

[locogato11283]

I agree completely! There are FAR more people in need of basic info than the more advanced stuff.

 

Here is another example of someone who is frustrated from dealing with the drama that comes with sharing info.

People post info and next thing you know you have guys saying "I've been doing this 20 years and never needed to do all that....I do it my way FTW....Timeslips or STFU.....etc."

 

He can explain in detail the cause and effects of the topic he's covering and can explain in detail the steps he has tried and is sharing the hows and whys of his opinion. (This somehow bothers some who slap all the best parts together and assume they have a top tuned item.)

There is ALWAYS room to learn more and get more from our machines. You don't have to jump straight to Cryo treating your entire tranny and doing everything Slow is talking about. But having a working understanding of the topic allows others to try his ideas in baby steps as the situation allows.

 

We could stand to have a few less posts about Boost Bottle Bashing and allow more veterans to share some higher level info without the peanut gallery getting into full contact verbal elbow throwing mode.

 

Not singling anyone out......... Just saying......

 

Fuck, I hate agreeing with you, but pretty much everything you said is true.

 

And YES, I am guilty of throwing shit together without checking myself or doing a ton of tuning, on a dyno anyway. I attribute a lot of that to my builder, who has never let me down or left me stranded. I guess I am kind of spoiled in that sense. My tuning comes in the form of suspension set up, gearing, tire trial and error and trying parts that many others wouldn't due simply to cost. I have the means so I don't mind, and I have no problem letting people know what is working and what isn't, for hillclimbing anyway.

 

While you and I don't see eye to eye about 97% of the time, I DO respect your tuning knowledge and help you bring to BansheeHQ, along with STY and others.

 

I suspect this diversity is what helps keeping people coming here.. Along with a little Jersey Shore drama every now and then.

 

and for retards. like everyone posting in this thread, including myself.

 

BansheeHQ is an equal opportunity website.

 

Tyler, are you saying BHQ is a beginners site?

 

Yes. It's also a mid-level and advanced users website. It hits on everything.

 

What's nice is that you have guys from all riding types with all motor types. Within this community, someone is bound to know the answer.

[possum]

whats TORS?

[WINDYCITYJOHN400]

Fuck, I hate agreeing with you, but pretty much everything you said is true.

 

And YES, I am guilty of throwing shit together without checking myself or doing a ton of tuning, on a dyno anyway. I attribute a lot of that to my builder, who has never let me down or left me stranded. I guess I am kind of spoiled in that sense. My tuning comes in the form of suspension set up, gearing, tire trial and error and trying parts that many others wouldn't due simply to cost. I have the means so I don't mind, and I have no problem letting people know what is working and what isn't, for hillclimbing anyway.

 

While you and I don't see eye to eye about 97% of the time, I DO respect your tuning knowledge and help you bring to BansheeHQ, along with STY and others.

 

I suspect this diversity is what helps keeping people coming here.. Along with a little Jersey Shore drama every now and then.

 

 

BansheeHQ is an equal opportunity website.

 

 

Yes. It's also a mid-level and advanced users website. It hits on everything.

 

What's nice is that you have guys from all riding types with all motor types. Within this community, someone is bound to know the answer.

 

  Someone has obviously hacked the main server.

[SlowerThanYou]

Hmmmm..... LocoHomo is somewhat pulling his head out of his ass. I didn't think he got the big picture, but he's slowly figuring it out.

[#1JUANstunna]

 

While you and I don't see eye to eye about 97% of the time, I DO respect your tuning knowledge and help you bring to BansheeHQ, along with STY and others.

 

 

FFS CS you are getting soft!

[Nightmare]

whats TORS?

TOES, not tors:lol:

 

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[WINDYCITYJOHN400]

 

 

And YES, I am guilty of throwing shit together without checking myself or doing a ton of tuning, on a dyno anyway. I attribute a lot of that to my builder, who has never let me down or left me stranded. I guess I am kind of spoiled in that sense. My tuning comes in the form of suspension set up, gearing, tire trial and error and trying parts that many others wouldn't due simply to cost. I have the means so I don't mind, and I have no problem letting people know what is working and what isn't, for hillclimbing anyway.

 

 

 

Not to pile on.....But I have known this was your way of testing. It works for you and many others.

However (speaking as one who has a motor from the same builder) Just because he built it, doesn't mean the timing and jetting are perfect once in your hands and at the events you participate in. (As you have admitted you don't know about the details of your motor....so you might know just what it needs as far as heat in the pipe prior to a run and a few other parameters.)

 

You have won with many different motors and pipes. This alone is an indicator that your strength in your chosen sport lies either in your ability to dial in your suspension, or your willingness to Whisky Throttle harder than others.

You have no way of knowing if your motor is down 10HP from what it's capable of. Obviously your motors have made enough power over the years, so finding that last 10% might not matter for your application. 

 

But just because you haven't seen the strengths of one form of testing, doesn't mean it has no value. Hopefully you will be more open to information from others when provided in the future. 

[locogato11283]

Not to pile on.....But I have known this was your way of testing. It works for you and many others.

However (speaking as one who has a motor from the same builder) Just because he built it, doesn't mean the timing and jetting are perfect once in your hands and at the events you participate in. (As you have admitted you don't know about the details of your motor....so you might know just what it needs as far as heat in the pipe prior to a run and a few other parameters.)

 

You have won with many different motors and pipes. This alone is an indicator that your strength in your chosen sport lies either in your ability to dial in your suspension, or your willingness to Whisky Throttle harder than others.

You have no way of knowing if your motor is down 10HP from what it's capable of. Obviously your motors have made enough power over the years, so finding that last 10% might not matter for your application. 

 

But just because you haven't seen the strengths of one form of testing, doesn't mean it has no value. Hopefully you will be more open to information from others when provided in the future. 

 

There are several factors to my success. Obviously, motors play a huge part. Testing different set ups has been a big deal too as it has changed a ton over the years. Last, I would say is my riding ability.

 

As far as on site potential of motor, they do perform very well and have a great success rate and basically non-existent failure rate.

 

Cam does dyno tune the motors, which I personally witnessed in February, and I think he is getting them as close as they will need to be for me. I'm not sure there is even 10% more to be had once they leave his hands, unless of course if he finds some new dome/porting configuration that works better.

 

He got 12 more HP out of our 18DMs with some very minor changes, but he knew he would as his testing on other motors showed ours need updated.

 

Mater of fact, I haven't touched the jetting in the carbs or made one single change to the set ups since getting the motors back from him. They are running very well and the plugs look good. Plus, I hate fucking with them. I want to ride them, not work on them.. Unless absolutely necessary.

[WINDYCITYJOHN400]

Well Tyler, you have often frowned on info I have posted related to my dyno testing.

Obviously Cam uses a dyno to find more power. 12HP is nothing to sneeze at. That info was found in dyno testing and trial and error on his end.

My motor just got "Re-Ported" by Cam because he found 10 more HP with a port style he tried. He found that power with his dyno. Your not going to find power quickly if you have to wait till the next race to test the results of changes. This is why the industry has crawled through the years in the advancement of power. Now that more builders are equipped with dynos, we are seeing advancements like never before. Also we are seeing people have a better understanding that a peak number is worthless if the overall curve is junk.

 

As for jetting.....being 1-2 jet sizes fat is safe and will certainly provide longevity. (Most builders will set everyone up jetted a little fat so you don't burn down and end up pissed.) 

But if you are an experienced motor tuner and willing to do the work, we find on average bikes can gain peak 7+ HP  and a WAY better curve from what the owners thought was well tuned mint jetting.

(Now if that guy goes and rides his machine in 30 degree weather, he's going to have an issue unless he jets accordingly.) LOL

 

NICKISGOD drove out from Buffalo NY for a dune trip and stopped by to hit the dyno first. He thought the bike was running pretty strong. (485 cheetah on gas) His first runs were 74 hp. With timing and jetting changes he left making 95!

 

I say this with great care........I have an EXTREMELY well tuned 370 long rod motor in my wife's bike. On the dyno it makes 63HP. Out in the real world it has beat more than a few 421 cubs. (Dune bikes...not full draggers) That can either be attributed to the other guy being tuned poorly, his suspension being off, him not riding for shit......or maybe I excel at more of those factors than he does. But when I go out to ride......Dyno testing has shown me that (For what that motor is) I'm getting 97% of it's potential without going to the level of pulling the pin and waiting for the boom. 

So if I'm looking to pick up a bike length....I know it's time to check the stuff you're use to trying, because I'm not going to find it in the motor.

 

That's why I focus on dyno tune first. If Nick picked his swing arm, tire and gearing based off his seat of the pants riding.......than suddenly adding 20 more HP throws all that out the window.

So I get the motor running perfect first......THEN work on the other stuff. That's why I value the dyno testing. I have spent FAR TOO MANY DUNE TRIPS chasing jetting! I'm more like you now.....I want to ride, not wrench.

Out in the sand it's 1 or 2 changes to dial the bike in....then let's go burn thru as much fuel in a day as I can.... till blistered hands, sore knees or darkness dictate the start of campfire time. 

 

Hearing more info about what others do regarding dialing in the other aspects of a bike should be very popular. The suspension section get's FAR too little traffic. I'm also enjoying STY's clutch post.

Tyler, you should offer up more input than just "Run this tire." You have a custom hybrid chassis and have won at your sport. You have some knowledge to share. It might be specific to hill climbing.....but it might also cross over to other stuff.