SlowerThanYou Posted June 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2013 STY, dosent proper slip of a clutch out of the hole relieve some of the slap on any start gear. Yes it does. If the clutch is set-up correctly it keeps your rpms from falling on the shifts. Minimizing the shift drop rpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadgod211 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 i know for some odd reason at our drag track a fully drag frame bike with all the dressing......with stock cyl no matter the size runs 0.20 faster launching in 1st instead of 2nd...i bought a set of cub cylinders and put them on my crank and ran 0.20 faster launching in 2nd instead of 1st......everything the identical same......just thought i would add my 2 cents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 i know for some odd reason at our drag track a fully drag frame bike with all the dressing......with stock cyl no matter the size runs 0.20 faster launching in 1st instead of 2nd...i bought a set of cub cylinders and put them on my crank and ran 0.20 faster launching in 2nd instead of 1st......everything the identical same......just thought i would add my 2 cents This is funny you brought this topic to the top. Thanks for sharing your experiences with both start gears. Surfrag still hasn't figured this thread or game as she refers too. 1st, there are no secrets to the 1st gear launch or even a 2nd gear launch. It's what gear works for you to get your quickest ET. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Coming from a strong running trail bike 6 speed no over ride when i drag race people 90% of the time i have to start in 2nd. Its easier to keep the front end down, i can launch harder without bogging, transition to the next gear easier also. Coming from the strong trail bike with an N-down 1-5 dunable(no 6th). Mine is set up to launch in 1st. I must brake my tires loose to help keep the front end down as i refuse to stretch my bike. I also have the option to set up my srockets so i can do the same in 2-5th but id loose a gear. I will see how much tq my 10ml ported serval makes once it's done and get it using 1-5th as i always did. Here's 1-5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunt Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 1st gear vs 2nd gear will always produce more torque to the tires, the question is can you control it, that's where the lockup tuning thread will learn you how to control it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted September 29, 2013 Report Share Posted September 29, 2013 Another factor taken from forced induction cars/trucks(i run a 2.3 whipple in my truck) is you can run a smaller final ratio depending on how you make power. The longer you stay in the power band the quicker you can be. To a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadbeat Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 When we get tired of "clutch testing" on our stock swinger shitmobiles the Reeeeeal fun starts. The RagunGayjun games begin!!...eatin` lizards and nakey piggyback rides, talking tardish etc... \ epic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagunCajun Posted September 30, 2013 Report Share Posted September 30, 2013 Haha yes sir that was a fun day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 As some know we are advocates of the 1st gear launch. This is primarily necessity for the asphalt, the primary surface we run. We decided to hill shoot in early 2009 & race 300' in late 2011. We were told by most we needed to start in 2nd gear for them surfaces. Our experience & transmission (1-4, manual 5 & 6) led us to follow what we knew. Anyway, we get questions about using 1st gear launches in conversation(s) & PMs. I can only offer an opinion on the one to use, because we have never used a 2nd gear launch. Here's the number one thing I would consider in what gear to start in; overall weight, both rider/race ready quad. Somewhere around 480 lbs. & above is where I would consider using 1st gear. I only say that, because that's our lightest overall weight. It still may be advantageous to use 1st gear at a lighter weight. In my opinion 480 lbs. is the line that you need to make that decision. This is just a couple areas I'm sharing my thoughts/opinion(s) on this subject. I forgot, LOL! with all the secrets BS. We are finally set-up to test the 2nd gear launch with the DMX. All the testing so far has been done using 1st gear launch. Because of using a 1-4 override with manual 5 & 6. We now have converted the quad to total 300' configuration. The final step was having a 1-5 override trans cut. While the 1st gear launch worked very well for the Cub. I think the 2nd gear launch will work better for the DMX. We should find out the end of this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 1st gear is much stronger.. but i guess if you slip the bawls off of the launch it might live ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfrjag Posted March 23, 2014 Report Share Posted March 23, 2014 this is second gear ladies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 TTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozer Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 So how did the 2nd gear launch on the dmx work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowerThanYou Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 So how did the 2nd gear launch on the dmx work? So far 2nd gear works best for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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