01BANSH Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 So I got an 01 Banshee, it has FMF SST pipes and Turbine II silencers and no air box just K&N Filter. It ran great pulled well throughout the power band. I put in a set of Boyesen Pro series reeds and took it down the street and around the yard a bit and it ran fine. I picked up some Formula K2 premix and mixed it 32:1 and went to hit some trails the next weekend and thats where i had problems. I let it warm up for at least 15 minutes and we started down the trail and everything was fine. Then it started bogging out and I thought it was fouling the plugs or something cause I was puttin up this trail in 2nd but we got out on a loggin road and i opened it up and kept it high in the power band but that didn't do anything. It had 280 Mains and 25 (stock) pilots I figured I needed to go up in my pilots since it was bogging out off idle so I just threw some 30's in it and it didn't fix a thing. I then went back to 40:1 thinking that may be the issue and that didn't fix it either. So Im kind of stumped Im about to take the reeds out and put the stock ones back in cause I just want this damn thing to run. Im headed to Winchester Bay at the end of the week and I need to get this figured out!!! HELP! Thanks fellas Jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 be cage didn't seal to boot or cylinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 The only part that doesn't make sense is it was fine when I took it out around the house and down the road. Thats why I thought maybe it was my Ratio cause thats the only thing that changed since i put reeds in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 The other thing is I put 310 mains in it with the 30 pilots and it was hard to start. Normally it starts on the first kick and now I gotta hold the throttle and kick it 2 or 3 times. I just tried to move the needle clip position It was in the 2nd from the top position so I moved it one more so its all the way on top and put it all back together and it won't even start now so Im just over it. I think Im just gonna put it all back the way it was with the stock reeds, 280 and 25's. It just ergs me that I can't figure it out. A couple more days of this and she's getting sold for another 450r =] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 27.5, needle on the second from the bottom clip, 330ish main. If not, fix the air leak at the reeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 What premix do you think I should run with that? I was running like 50:1 and then mixed 32:1 and seemed like I started having issues. And where is the air leak do you think? It seemed like it all went back together just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave5.0 Posted May 19, 2013 Report Share Posted May 19, 2013 What premix do you think I should run with that? I was running like 50:1 and then mixed 32:1 and seemed like I started having issues. And where is the air leak do you think? It seemed like it all went back together just fine. You can run either ratio as long as the oil is rated for it. But you can't jump around. Going from 50 to 32 affects your jetting. You leaned the mixture going to the 32 so it would need rejetting to compensate if it was correct in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 So Ive got an update. With the 310 mains, 30 Pilots, needle in the 2nd from bottom, it is a little better but it still bogs out in the beginning of the throttle. If Im going from a dead stop it just sputters and bogs erratically until it gets up in the rpm and then hits power band out of no where. I tested for leaks and I don't have any leaks especially not on the reed boots/intake. I can pick up some 27.5's tomorrow I just don't know if its gonna help cause its doing the same thing as when I had 25's in it. Im just at a loss here I feel like installing reeds shouldn't be such a pain in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 How did you test for air leak at boots/reed cage? Have you tried tweeking air screw? Plugs good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 I shot ether at both ends of the carb and at the intake boots with no change. I would assume if there was a leak the idle would go up and it didn't. Ive messed with the screws with no change I think I'm going to keep backing it out more and more to see if that makes it better then drop to the 27.5. When Im running it and pull the choke to the first click it makes it worse which would lead me to believe that I need to go down in my pilot size from 30. Im going to pick up the pilots today and try to get them in tonight and see if that helps. And the plugs are new but Ill pick up more since Im gonna bring a few sets down to Winchester Bay with me this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toytech Posted May 22, 2013 Report Share Posted May 22, 2013 do a search and see how to do a leakdown test. you can make the tester your self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskool Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 You got the choke tube connected to both carbs with no cracks or splits in hose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Don't have time for a leak down test. Choke tube is in place and looks good. I got 27.5's today so I'm gonna put those in. I turned my airscrews out 5 turns and that made it a little better so I think the jets should help. Although my throttle just started sticking out of no where. This shit is getting worse and worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldskool Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 The air screw will fall out at 5 turns out. No way you can be there or should be there. Too lean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01BANSH Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 For testing purposes, if the screws are all the way in you would want to go up a size in your pilots so if they were all the way out you would want to go down a size in pilots. So I got 27.5's and Ill go back to 1.5 turns out and see where we go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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