Valadezj Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Im having problems with my new cub i installed the stock studs back on because im installing a brand new chariot head, the problem is that the head slips right on when i hand tighten the studs but when i torque them down the head doesnt slide on it gets stuck, almost like the studs were not straight. My question is can i just hand tighten the studs, slip the head on and tighten the bolts it comes with? I figured by tightening the head bolts it would tighten the studs along with it, help me out i need opinions Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 You might have a bent stud/studs. I would just start with a pile of fresh studs. Jeff at fast stocks them and can probably have them to ya by the weekend. even more so, how bad would it suck to put that thing on and go to torque everything down and the janky stud snaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANSHEE HP Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 chariot head are notorious for being a tight fit around the studs. the studs should be lock tite'd in. try to find which stud is holding you up and releave the the head so it slides on and off easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valadezj Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks guy yea im ordering new studs, i spoke to chariot and they said to hand tighten the studs and put the head on , the torque from the nuts will tighten the studs too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yeah, but that way doesn't mean you have a properly torqued head stud and it could be prone to backing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valadezj Posted March 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 so trickedcarbine you think, i should just locktite them first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I think that the studs should be installed with LOCTITE and torqued before the head install. Like HP reccomended, if they aren't bent, maybe figure out where it's binding and drill the hole out a bit bigger. Just a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lms1977 Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 I put locktite on the studs and put them in the cyl to the desired depth then slide the head on and torque the head down. I only put the locktite o. The part of the stud that goes in the cyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valadezj Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 Quick question how much is the stud supposed to stick out of the head, because mine on stuck out about a 1/4 of an inch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANSHEE HP Posted March 20, 2013 Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 far enough to get the full amount of threads into the acorn nut. thread one in by hand put the head on and figure out how far they need to be out( its going to be different heights with different heads and acorn nuts). measure that one, then lock-tite and set the studs to the desired height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valadezj Posted March 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Ok i put locktite on my studs and final have success!!!!! Right torque and no leaks thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Bitchin'! Glad it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zillaguy Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Not sure on Banshee's... But I know for a fact when using ARP head studs on a race engine for a car, you don't torque the studs... You thread them in until they are seated lightly and then torque the nuts properly (using moly-grease to reduce friction)... Because if the head stud is torqued too tight and you torque the nut, it WILL remove the threads from your engine block! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Right, that is why you just get them threaded and just cinch 'em up. But you certainly don't want them spinning as you torque the nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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