trickedcarbine Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 This thread has AIDS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locogato11283 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Ill quit with the kevin bashing, my personality is not that way anyhow. That's complete bullshit. You're always trying to find a reason to bash people. You think you know more than motor builders, chassis builders and suspension builders. You're a fraud. You don't know shit about shit. Anyone with half a fucking brain can see you're a wannabe. Face it, you're not important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I think possum is a dip shit for the most part... but Kevin does not have good knowledge about domes and how they work with different set ups.... he sent me chasing non existent problems for a VERY long time and me being new followed what the builder told me to try... in the long run it took a new builder 1 phone call with me to have a VERY GOOD IDEA of what my issue was... he couldn't promise anything as it isn't his work but said its worth a shot and he was confident that was part of my issue... I got new domes cut to the specs and all my issues went away.. HJR was only able to tell me.. keep going at it you are almost there, You sure you dont have other issues (electrical) etc.. Hell I even ASKED if custom cut domes would help me out and his answer was NO. I don't want to bash anyone openly for no reason... but his lack of knowledge sent me in circles for way to long and cost me my time and money swapping electrical parts. I had over a year of being patient and hoping he would direct me in the right direction and he didn't. Needless to say.. I wont recommend him to anyone with the crap I went through. Especially with a issue like I had which should of been a obvious issue from a builders perspective. *I am clueless on domes and how they work. I reported my specs back and got told it was good. Dang dude,you STILL going on about that?? Or should i say ma'am? Yes we all know you weren't satisfied with what went on with your HJR motor,,,what,, a year ago? Worse than my Ex-wife ^^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 im just spreading the word to people who are ASKING and don't know.... the OP clearly doesn't know and people are still recommending hjr.... im clearly warning him of what I went through and to pretty much tell him to go else where for help... ALSO.... that post wasnt for you so fuck off and it was far from a year ago... I just had it running properly at the end of fall.... if you dont want to hear about my shit.. then dont read my posts.. easy as that I understand you didnt care for his work,,i get it. But after you spoke your peace on the matter , why do you KEEP bringing it up?.. Why?.. Well you basically said it in the above post, you want to steer people AWAY from HJR, AKA trying to keep him from getting work, AKA take food out of his mouth. THATS why i even said anything,i think its a pretty low blow for a KNOWN SCREW UP ( aka YOU. You're always whining about something breaking or messing up on you) to try and take income away from a decent guy. BTW, I couldn't care less if your post was for me or not,,its in a open forum,and i'll respond openly if i choose to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouzon30 Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I see how people get the wrong info kiven is a good guy he go out his way to help people and i never had a problem with him or his work so just because you weren't happy doesn't mean the man don't know his shit so fuck off you cry baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special06shee Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 ieieie! fucking people! I have to agree here with Jessum on this one! why not speak up when you clearly have a problem with something that was "professional" built? and if people are having a specific problem with a certain builder, why not bring it to everyones attention? at the end of the day, a true builder will take all of the criticism, or shit talk and turn it around and learn from it! go back to the drawing board and figure out what went/is wrong with it and try and improve/learn from it. jmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 again... you clearly didnt read what I was saying you will always hear more good then bad on here because too many people go jumping the ropes to flame the guy that flames a builder for HIS FUCK UPS or LACK OF KNOWLEDGE... if kevin was so great why couldn't he figure out such a simple fix such as mine... when i called the new builder it took him no time to know exactly what the POSSIBLE root cause was.... By no means did I jump the fency in a hurry to bash HJR... i was patient and took over 1 year of his recomendations swapping electrical and jetting and re checking every single little specs I could to see if the issue was on my side. ASK ANY builder his opinion if custom cut domes are worth it or not.... cause when I asked HJR he told me I would see no gain's from custom cuts.... that right there is a huge red flag if you had the slightest clue. Yea, no one is denying that he might have designed your domes wrong. Only you and him know if that was the case. My point is this : You have spoke your peace, made your point,,why do you STILL bring it up? Simply because you want to steer people AWAY from HJR,, You take ,maybe not every opportunity , but you take enough of them, to bad mouth his work.. Of course you started "slyly " doing it by not directly naming him,then you got more bold about it..now you seize almost every chance you get to bring it up. I wonder if you'd feel better if you put him out of business or put a dent in it? Is that what you want? Because it sure looks like that's what you are trying to do. You were dissatisfied , ok , we get it, but trying to take work away from a guy trying to make a living in this sport is just pretty sorry if you ask me. (If he was a known crook it'd be different) Just remember "what goes around ,comes around". Maybe someday you'll have your own business and understand. Its hard out there ,especially in this sport, and to try and run someone down may just come back and bite you in the backside when YOU'RE the one trying to make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 ieieie! fucking people! I have to agree here with Jessum on this one! why not speak up when you clearly have a problem with something that was "professional" built? and if people are having a specific problem with a certain builder, why not bring it to everyones attention? at the end of the day, a true builder will take all of the criticism, or shit talk and turn it around and learn from it! go back to the drawing board and figure out what went/is wrong with it and try and improve/learn from it. jmo Who says HJR hasn't done that? All you have to go on is what "Jessum" keeps spouting off about..its been brought to light for awhile now,,,.its also been fixed, move on people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
special06shee Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Who says HJR hasn't done that? All you have to go on is what "Jessum" keeps spouting off about..its been brought to light for awhile now,,,.its also been fixed, move on people. well I don't know all the facts here, actually none of them. so I guess I should of just kept my mouth shut! but all I was trying to say is if there is/was a problem people should speak up! the top builders did not get were there are now by building motors and having their customers blow smoke up their ass when in actuality the motor was a turd! they got to were they are now simply because of honest feedback from their costumers, whether good or bad! there are too many people on this site, and in this world that jump on the bandwagon whether good or bad! it makes me laugh all the time when a thread is posted asking for advise on a builder, or whatever. i wonder how many people actually are recommending them/this or not recommending them/this based off of personal experience? or are they just going off of what all the 'cool' kids are saying?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 well I don't know all the facts here, actually none of them. so I guess I should of just kept my mouth shut! but all I was trying to say is if there is/was a problem people should speak up! the top builders did not get were there are now by building motors and having their customers blow smoke up their ass when in actuality the motor was a turd! they got to were they are now simply because of honest feedback from their costumers, whether good or bad! there are too many people on this site, and in this world that jump on the bandwagon whether good or bad! it makes me laugh all the time when a thread is posted asking for advise on a builder, or whatever. i wonder how many people actually are recommending them/this or not recommending them/this based off of personal experience? or are they just going off of what all the 'cool' kids are saying?? I agree with you . Im sure any GOOD builder would appreciate feedback, like you said, positive OR negative. AND, if you have a problem and they refuse or cant help you,maybe you SHOULD voice it...but going on and on and ON,come on man, move on already. I just think its wrong to try to steer people away from them when its obvious many, many people have had GOOD dealings with them,and the incidents of making a mistake are far and few between. That shows its just some human error and not a scammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 and curious sprink.. did you ever deal with HJR first hand with engine work... *not parts* Honestly i have not. My issue is purely with what appears to be an attempt on your part to steer people away from someone who OBVIOUSLY made a mistake(maybe several) and in the process hurt them in the wallet ,so-to-speak. Look man, I had an incident with a builder just like you. I had them do me a turn-key, completely assembled and leakdown tested motor. Not a high dollar motor ( about 2000.00) but it was enough money. I got the motor and installed it. I felt like i should be able to do that since i had paid them to completely assemble the whole thing. I told them to replace ANYTHING that needed it. Well needless to say, the head leaked like a sieve and it wouldn't pass a leakdown. Come to find out , the head looked to have been machined with a dremel , and was so warped it had to be replaced. The rest of the motor assembly was pretty sad too. So , long story short, i feel your pain,,but dang man. Why you wanna try to ruin a guys business?? Call him up and talk to him like a man. It sucks sometimes,but at least we learn something in the process,,least thats how i tell myself to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Im sure you called back the builder and he fixed you up? or at least tried to... I would of been pissed in your case no doubt about it... but if the builder makes it right I can leave it behind me and be fine.. Never happened. I was treated like i was an idiot ( maybe partially right) and had a "how dare you question me" attitude. Needless to say, I've moved on and found a builder who appreciates feedback (positive or criticism).. although he thinks im an idiot too.,,,but i can live with that,,must be true! haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinklerman Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 hahaha.. good ol cam for ya... Well dude I dont know why you would want to protect a builder like that... if the guy cant seem to admit he messed up or make it right or value you as a customer why let others possibly get fooled like you did? At times I wish my issue was as blunt and simple as yours.. it would of saved me A LOT of time and probably almost as much money. I dont dwell on my issues with him... but I will sway people else where if they are asking for an opinion... which is the whole reason to ask for opinions.. to see the good and bad... If someone asked me privately if i had personal experience with that particular builder,i would tell them,,but im not going to interject or try to squeeze my experience into a thread.....but I WILL steer them to someone i have had GOOD experiences with. If they choose to listen or ask for more info,great. If not,oh well. I also know many people have had great experiences with whom i did not,so its up to them ultimately,and it might work out well for them. I just try to steer them in the direction of those Ive had positive experiences and not recommend the bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastrykiller Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 Not every transaction goes as smooth as planned. Some things just happen. The take away from this should be that you learned a lot about your bike and can repair any and all issues yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickedcarbine Posted February 26, 2013 Report Share Posted February 26, 2013 I see where guys like Jesse and Windy are coming from with publicly flaming the builders that have gave them a sour taste. But there does come a time when people need to just move on, and of you do need to say something do it with some class. IE, " I had a HJR motor I just couldn't get right and one phone call to Brandon at Wildcard got my bike running A1!" In all actuality, the HJR complaints have been pretty prevalent lately but any one to say a word gets bashed. Just the way it is around here. For instance, there are pages after pages of threads with people bashing my builder. And none of the people even have a motor built by the guy. They just talk shit because his pipe made a certain gain on a few different motors but not all the motors it was tested on. People asked for proof and they got a few validations but also a few bikes weren't up to par so it was bull shit and all the shearer fans pounced. I just feel like it depends on what day of the week it is around here whether it's ok to bash someone or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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