badbanshee509 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i finally took my bike out for the first run. i put alky in the gas tank and calmly rode through my 1-5 override tranny to wormed up the bike, i lined it up in the road and reved it up to clear out the carbs a bit, when i took off at full throttle, it was sounding like the bike was bogging out really bad at top end, i changed my sparkplugs and CID box hoping that would fix the problem but it did the same thing, it sound as if it was loosing hella power at full throuttle, however when you take it easy and putt putt on the throttle the bike works perfect, it only dose it a full throttle. im running 35mm lectron carbs and my bike is a 65mm stock cylinder 4 mil crank, 1-5 override. what else can it be? also is the black wire from the CID box sippose to be grounded to the chassis, or the black and white wire sippose to be grounded to the chassis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 black wire to chassis black white goes to kill switch. sure your not lean on the top end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfrjag Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 how much timing and what is plug gap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbanshee509 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 timing is +7, and i havent mess with the plug gap at all, it cant be to leas on top cause it still really smoky at full throttle. also if the black wire wasent groungded then the bike wouldnt start correct? cause aparently the bike is running but my mechanic said it could be because i dont have a ground going to the CDI box, but my bike is running, its just not running strong at top end some one said it could be due to my coil also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbanshee509 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 mechanic is saying the bike is loosing power due to the electrical that because of me shortening up the bikes wire harness to make it a bit more cleaner, i doubt that...... all i did was delete the extender part of the harness and mount the CDI box under the gas tank. if anyone has a diagram of what wires i need grounded out of the harness other then the BLACK wire, please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTHUNDERCATx Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 if you know your fat then why not assume thats the problem? if your feeding much much fuel into the cylinder it probably isnt clearing it out, i would try tuning it before you look at another issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedd1 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Close the PJs a round or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker7374 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Sounds lean to me. Alky can be extremely rich and still run just fine. It could be something in the wiring but doubtful. Do you have the powerjets all the way out? Do you have a big vent hole in your tank? Dual pingle? Sounds like its not getting enough fuel on the top end at WOT, but has enough to sustain just average riding around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skywalker7374 Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Check the plugs to see for sure what your fuel to air mixture is before doing anything. This might save a lot of headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbanshee509 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Sounds lean to me. Alky can be extremely rich and still run just fine. It could be something in the wiring but doubtful. Do you have the powerjets all the way out? Do you have a big vent hole in your tank? Dual pingle? Sounds like its not getting enough fuel on the top end at WOT, but has enough to sustain just average riding around. im running dual pingle, and the vent is fine, im going to tell him to tune the carbs a bit to see if it running to lean, like stated above, running a bit ritch wont cause this in alky, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xTHUNDERCATx Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i dont mean a bit rich i mean way to rich, it can cause it. I ran into this yesterday, leaned it out enough and it began to clear up. Im not saying its your issue and its safer to treat it as a lean bog but if that doesnt fix it being fat could be a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbanshee509 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 i dont mean a bit rich i mean way to rich, it can cause it. I ran into this yesterday, leaned it out enough and it began to clear up. Im not saying its your issue and its safer to treat it as a lean bog but if that doesnt fix it being fat could be a possibility. yeah ill just have him play around with the carbs and see if that fixes the problem after we install a pancake barring in it cause i just welded the rod and ball this morning, i am hoping that tuning the carbs is the problem and i dont have to spend anymore money lol RITE!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#1JUANstunna Posted January 27, 2013 Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Why didn't you check the plugs first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbanshee509 Posted January 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2013 Why didn't you check the plugs first? honistly this is my first alky bike, and i really never had to check the plugs on my trail banshee, i dont even know what color to look for indicating rich or not, i know when i pulled them out the first time trouble shooting after putting brand new plugs in, the didnt have no color to them after running it for like 20 mins, they still looked brand spankin new just with alky on them. i dont really know what that indicates honistly. it fired up on the first kick so i thought sparkplugs were good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINDYCITYJOHN400 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Your going from riding a bike that never needed any tuning to an alky bike?..... You've never run alky and don't have plug checking and plug reading knowledge/experience?........ I see an epic melt down in the future. Your going to have to park it and do alot of Research/ Reading till your at least 60% confident in the basics......then the real learning curve begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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