sheebroke Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 i have a 91 shee i just had a new top end put in it had to be bored i was told its a 367cc now . i added reed spacers. it has stock pipes stock filter lid on no holes. it fires up first kick idles good .. the prob is if u open it wide open the right side seems to quit ? it has good bottom end power . the cross over tube is in place carbs are clean i had 190 mains in it and put 200's and it got better ? i was thinking maybe reeds ? i think they are factory never been changed (91) the bike was beat around pretty bad befor i got it . whats the best and cheap way to go about geting new reeds ? any other ideas someone may no or have had the same prob and fixed it . thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted October 2, 2003 Report Share Posted October 2, 2003 It sounds as though the reeds could be kicked, a clogged or restricted main jet, not enough fuel in the bowl, or the coil connections are bugged up. I had a problem just like that, and the primary wires, (orange and black) were loose. Happened to me a couple times. I have also had a clogged main jet do that, and a cracked reed. Also, a weak stator. A couple things are easy to check. The connections, obviously check those. Make sure they are tight and clean. Then, move on to the reeds. if you aren't running 34+mm size carbs, I recommend that you take the reed spacers out. IMHO they don't do anything. people have tried to prove their worthiness, but I have done my own personal ttesting, and they didn't do a damned thing for my bike. useless in other words. Anyways, pull the reeds out (* the cages) and look to see that they are sealing properly, and there is no wear around the edges. If they are original, I recommend porting the cages, and getting some TDR reeds to go on there. Check your float height on the carbs, and give them a good cleaning while you have them out to get at the reeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 3, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 thanks for the reply boonman . ill give all that a shot this weekend and c what happens and let u no . ill pull the reed spacers out ! how much are the tdr reeds? and porting the cages is that a machine shop job ? how do i go about checking the float hight? what should they be ? thanks for the info . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 thanks for the reply boonman . ill give all that a shot this weekend and c what happens and let u no . ill pull the reed spacers out ! That is completely up to you. I was just tellin ya my findings on the matter. You may find some sort of advantage with them... how much are the tdr reeds? If memory serves me correctly, I believe they are about $30. and porting the cages is that a machine shop job ? Definitely not. If you have a dremel, and a little time, you are all set. There is a site somewhere with info and pics, but I do not remember what it was. Someone has posted it here, and I KNOW ScottM has the info. He will sell ya some for $25 I believe the going price was.... how do i go about checking the float hight? what should they be ? thanks for the info . Dammit!!! I don't have my bible/service manual with me and I don't remember. I let a friend borrow it to do some work on his bike. SOmeone will let you know hopefully, or you can check out BenBB's page, www.dfn.com/benkaren and look at the jetting faq page. It may be in there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenBB Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 Float height should be 20-22mm, link to the Jetting FAQ is in my sig. B370's page has the goods on porting the reed cages: http://www.roostfest.com/ Does it backfire or just not hit on one side? Could be the reeds, float height, or coil/connections like boonman said, might also be TORS if you have it, an air leak on the right side, plugs or a connection on the plug boot. How do the plugs look now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2003 ty again for info .. no it dont back fire at all it runs awsome at low rpm's and if u open it up slowly it will rap like it should could be bad stator too huh or coil . plugs look good . the tors are discoed . no air leaks checked that could be bad plug boot ill give that a check ill switch sides c if the left quits . ill give all this a shot this weekend and keep ya posted thanks a bunch for the info guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 7, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2003 well i didnt get to muss with my shee this weekend ...honeydo's kept my busy . awsome site benbb . i will try all this stuff u guys told me to try and i thanke u again for the help. i have another set of carbs im going to clean up and set up to put on it this will give me a chance to learn more about them . made me sum float hight temps ty again guys ill let ya no what happens. jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 ok guys i cleaned the carbs checked the reeds and they look "ok" could use some new ones. im thinking its the stator or cdi,coil started it up ran down the road and was still not runnin right ..parked it for about an hr. and went back out and it wouldnt start no fire ! checked all the plugins still no fire so i pulled started it and it started . seems like its losing fire maybe a bad conn some where i havent found any ideas ? thanks again for any help .... jeff lebanon MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banchetta Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Tors is known as a couple of things. Did you disconnect the little black box above the left exhaust w/ the 3-wire plug??? What about the parking brake switch....?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 12, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 yep the tors are unpluged ...they key was removed when i got it . parking break where is the plugin for that? i'v seen in post that it will cause prob. but for some reason i have never checked it (duh) . it started fine after pull startin it road for cpl hrs and it did it again so its gotta be somthing to do with fire cdi,stator,coil or parking break . thanks for the reply . dont no what i would do if i never found this site keep up the awsome work BHQ #1 jeff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 15, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 hmmm wont start no fire pull it fires up .. shut it off kick it once starts up shut it off gotta pull it again weak stator ? how do i check the parking brake switch or disco it ? really getin old if ya no what i mean ! thanks for any info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boonman Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 Did you disconnect the little black box above the left exhaust w/ the 3-wire plug??? If you disconnect this box, which is adjacent to the ignition coil, it will disable the entire TORS system from messing with the spark. This is the way you check to see if it causing your problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banchetta Posted October 15, 2003 Report Share Posted October 15, 2003 I haven't read anywheres in this topic saying that you tried new plugs........... :idea: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheebroke Posted October 16, 2003 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 opps ..yes i have tryed new plugs didnt fix the prob i did a plug chop and they look as they should--> (http://www.dfn.com/benkaren) great site ! and the tors are unpluged (little black box above the left exhaust w/ the 3-wire plug) is that also for the parking brake ? sorry for all the stupid questions and thanks for all the replys . the good thing is whith it runnin like chit i can still out runn my fellow riders ty and keep it comin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banchetta Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Did you run your shee wide open in 6th gear before you did the plug chop. Normal riding will give you a false reading. Make sure you run it wot for 5-10 seconds in 6th gear. Next, make sure the choke tube is in place between the two carbs (1/4" x 2" long), Make sure your slides aren't backwards. Did this all start at once or after you changed something???? The parking brake switch is on the handlebars by the clutch. There is a wire that comes out and goes toward the gas tank. There should be a connector by the tank, disconnect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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