passion 10mill cub time slips for 500ft

[banshee332]

Here are a few time slips from my last race, its a 500ft dirt track. I changed my chassi around, These are my best mph's to date. The snipers just pull so hard.

10mill cub with snipers on c12 gas no additives or nitrous. Im getting the mph that I want just need to work on clutch and tires now to get the lower e.t's that I want.

I have a slip for 101 but cant get it to work it keeps posting upside down Ill see if I can get it posted later

 

Edited August 10, 2012 by banshee332

[J-Madd]

It would be great if it had 60 ft (and 330 ft) times. I don't see how you can tune without 60 ft sensors. I'm betting you could lay down a whole lot better e.t. with less mph.

 

 

For example: Lets say you run 3.80 @ 84 mph on a 300 ft track. Hypothetically suppose you ran that on out to 500 ft @ 84 mph (no additional acceleration). That e.t. would be 5.4 seconds if I did the math correctly. You could run a 4.2 (@84 mph)in 300ft in the same scenario and still run 5.8 in 500 ft.

 

NOT at all knocking the time slip. I think your 60 ft times are waaaay up there. But if you're gearing to get the mph out of it, that happens.

[banshee332]

It would be great if it had 60 ft (and 330 ft) times. I don't see how you can tune without 60 ft sensors. I'm betting you could lay down a whole lot better e.t. with less mph.

 

 

For example: Lets say you run 3.80 @ 84 mph on a 300 ft track. Hypothetically suppose you ran that on out to 500 ft @ 84 mph (no additional acceleration). That e.t. would be 5.4 seconds if I did the math correctly. You could run a 4.2 (@84 mph)in 300ft in the same scenario and still run 5.8 in 500 ft.

 

NOT at all knocking the time slip. I think your 60 ft times are waaaay up there. But if you're gearing to get the mph out of it, that happens.

I can tell u my 60 fts sucks, I need to tune the clutch and bigger tires. I agree with you on less mph and better e.ts. I have run 5.8's and 5.9's from 94-96 mph

[n2otoofast4u]

Brad,

 

Just like Madd Im not knocking your win or down grading your setup......(seriously you are having fun and that is 100% the goal) However, most people including myself can see where this is going and Im not going there in this reply. With that said, heres my response..

 

That time is HORRIBLE!!! You have to look at the overall picture here! With no 60 you have no clue wtf the bike is doing the first (IMO most important) part of the track. I commented some time ago to Jim (in a smart ass way) that his correlation with 60' and MPH was a joke. Ive been around for atleast 2 weeks now. I get some of it! But you people HAVE to understand that if a well running bike slows on the 60 its going to gain MPH. Its a realistic, fact proven, part of the line that we all so carefully try to stay one way or the other of. You can put your wins on sniper, shearer, setup, jockey, WTF ever you want to put them on...BUT you have to realize your very self that you are only seeing one small part of the picture here!. You say "my 60s suck" How do you know? How are you trying to tune to bottom half of the track when you can damn near only read the top 20%? Again, fun is the #1 importance factor here! Im not deploying an attack or a doubt just trying to wrap my head around all of this.

[PassionRE]

Brad,

 

Just like Madd Im not knocking your win or down grading your setup......(seriously you are having fun and that is 100% the goal) However, most people including myself can see where this is going and Im not going there in this reply. With that said, heres my response..

 

That time is HORRIBLE!!! You have to look at the overall picture here! With no 60 you have no clue wtf the bike is doing the first (IMO most important) part of the track. I commented some time ago to Jim (in a smart ass way) that his correlation with 60' and MPH was a joke. Ive been around for atleast 2 weeks now. I get some of it! But you people HAVE to understand that if a well running bike slows on the 60 its going to gain MPH. Its a realistic, fact proven, part of the line that we all so carefully try to stay one way or the other of. You can put your wins on sniper, shearer, setup, jockey, WTF ever you want to put them on...BUT you have to realize your very self that you are only seeing one small part of the picture here!. You say "my 60s suck" How do you know? How are you trying to tune to bottom half of the track when you can damn near only read the top 20%? Again, fun is the #1 importance factor here! Im not deploying an attack or a doubt just trying to wrap my head around all of this.

 

 

 

How many >>>>>>500ft <<<<<<<DIRT drags on required KNOBBIES have you timed yourself on? I suspect none. Most 100hp banshees barely run 5.0 in 300ft in the dirt with knobbies. The scenerio on this track is MUCH different than sand drags with paddle tires.

MPH is critical on this track. In any case,whatever ones belief, it wasn't until he started breaking the 100mph mark that he was able to shut down methanol DM's on the bottle with a gas cub. That says more than enough for most. Effective traction is out of reach for anything over 80HP on this track,even at half track... but were always looking for more, as we should....you cant even compare the two types of racing, they even require two totally different styles of engines...Jim

[dirtydownunder]

why is pretty much every dyno / track slip some how half arsed ? does nothing work properly ?

[Burt Reynolds]

[SuperMex]

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[So Cal Suspension]

why is pretty much every dyno / track slip some how half arsed ? does nothing work properly ?

This was/is a common problem in the off road industry.

 

There are two rules of success in life. #1 is don't tell people everything you know.

[ATVridinMaNiAc]

[vulvafan537240]

[srp]

Brad has a huge performance advantage now. Why in the world would he want an engine that runs less MPH and stops accelerating before the finish line, those are the very same engines types he can so easily dust off now without even trying?

 

When Brads bike would only run 96 MPH, he would win one race per year. Now that his bike runs 100+MPH, he has won 5 races out of 6 events, not to mention he has outran DM's on alcohol that have nitrous oxide.

 

The rules state, no paddles. Just how fast can the 60 foot times be under those conditions? That is why he said the 60 foot was slow.

 

Anyone that thinks a bike with knobbie tires that can run over 100 MPH, within 500 feet is not impressive. Is not being realistic.

[SlowerThanYou]

Here are a few time slips from my last race, its a 500ft dirt track. I changed my chassi around, These are my best mph's to date. The snipers just pull so hard.

10mill cub with snipers on c12 gas no additives or nitrous. Im getting the mph that I want just need to work on clutch and tires now to get the lower e.t's that I want.

I have a slip for 101 but cant get it to work it keeps posting upside down Ill see if I can get it posted later

 

While I don't race on 500' dirt with Knobbie tires. I do have some things in common with Brad's situation. We have a 7mm cub on C14 race gas, no additives or nitrous. While most of our set-up knowledge is 1/4 mile asphalt. We have also had good success with 330' street legal drags, 300' sand & sand hill shooting. We have used our clutch tuning experience in all them situations.

 

The 330' street drags are our worst traction nightmare. It helps equalize different motor sizes, bigger isn't always better! Anyway, by watching a few of 332's videos. He has a traction nightmare to deal with. Will the clutch tuning totally solve the problem; no, but it will help lower the ET.

 

Brad & I have discussed some basic clutch tuning recently. I'm pretty sure we could lower his ET with a few basic adjustments. I would like to see a launch rpm limiter added also.

[banshee332]

While I don't race on 500' dirt with Knobbie tires. I do have some things in common with Brad's situation. We have a 7mm cub on C14 race gas, no additives or nitrous. While most of our set-up knowledge is 1/4 mile asphalt. We have also had good success with 330' street legal drags, 300' sand & sand hill shooting. We have used our clutch tuning experience in all them situations.

 

The 330' street drags are our worst traction nightmare. It helps equalize different motor sizes, bigger isn't always better! Anyway, by watching a few of 332's videos. He has a traction nightmare to deal with. Will the clutch tuning totally solve the problem; no, but it will help lower the ET.

 

Brad & I have discussed some basic clutch tuning recently. I'm pretty sure we could lower his ET with a few basic adjustments. I would like to see a launch rpm limiter added also.

I'm working on bigger tires for next race hoping to have my clutch slip a little right now there's no slip to it at all. Brain I been thinking about a launch limiter for sometime now. What would u suggest?

[SlowerThanYou]

I'm working on bigger tires for next race hoping to have my clutch slip a little right now there's no slip to it at all. Brain I been thinking about a launch limiter for sometime now. What would u suggest?

 

We have the launch limiter feature on our Dyna ignition. If you are running a stock ignition you can add on a dyna launch limiter. I can find you the part # & instructions depending on what you are running.

 

As for your clutch slip. You provide the installed hieght of your springs ( I can walk, talk & picture you through it), LOL! Then provide your springs & I can baseline your primary pressure. Then provide you with a recommended base pressure.

 

Or, if you want to in the off season send your set-up to me & I'll baseline line/set-up the recommended tune up free of charge. You pay the shipping/parts.