Jeepmonkey Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I've had my '97 Shee for about 8 years now. In that time I haven't done nearly as much riding as I've wanted to and I've certainly not done the maintenance that it needed. Anyway, the last time I rode it over a year ago, it made a terrible metal on metal noise so it's been parked ever since. I broke it down a couple weeks ago and have been slowly going thru it trying to figure out the problem. When I took the clutch cover off there was some small metal pieces in it that I couldn't identify. I've taken everything down to the case and can't see anything that is noticeably where the metal came from. One of the pieces was aluminum and I think it came from the cover since there was a big chunk broke off of it. Again, I can't see anything that is broke that would've caused that much damage. The only thing I can think is that something broke before I owned it, and whenever the previous owner fixed it, they didn't get all the metal out. Question 1. Can metal from a transmission gear get into the case? Question 2. The shaft that the sprocket it on has a little horizontal play....Is that normal? So far the gears seem to shift fine and I can't see anything that was clearly broken that would make that noise. I took the stator cover off and it all appears to be normal. Should I crack the case in two since it's out of the frame and see what's what inside? Yes, I know I'm asking to be flamed so bring it on. I've spent the last two days reading almost every topic on the first 20 pages here so I feel a lot more comfortable working on it. I'm pretty mechanically inclined and know my way around the garage, but I've never worked on a quad or motorcycle before. Most recently I rebuilt the head on my Jeeps 4.0......So you can't tell me to make sure my blinker fluid is topped off. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2otoofast4u Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yes, split the cases.. Its easy to do and you will know for sure what you have or dont have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 ya id split the cases. and while your in there check the powerband Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepmonkey Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Powerband?......Sounds a little like muffler bearings. Should I weld the ball to the shaft too? Is there a gasket between the two halves or do you just use the black RTV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Haha damn thought I had ya! No don't use black rtv. Gotta make sure you use something that's gas and oil safe. Threebond seems to be the prefered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepmonkey Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Thanks for the tip....I was watching a video posted on this site and the guy just used black RTV. I also noticed on my shift star that there is one tooth that is missing. Is that neutral? It's not missing....it's just shorter then the rest. Edited June 19, 2012 by Jeepmonkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah there is a notch for neutral. And black RTV is fine. It is oil and gas resistant. It just makes a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave5.0 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Yeah there is a notch for neutral. And black RTV is fine. It is oil and gas resistant. It just makes a mess. I wouldn't use plain ol rtv. Use ultra black or grey if you're gonna do that. I've used it before and it cleans up easier. I'd just make sure to let it set up a few days. Or just use the stringy stuff like 3bond and you'll be fine. Main thing is to make sure it's spotless when it goes back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheerider11 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I wouldn't use plain ol rtv. Use ultra black or grey if you're gonna do that. I've used it before and it cleans up easier. I'd just make sure to let it set up a few days. Or just use the stringy stuff like 3bond and you'll be fine. Main thing is to make sure it's spotless when it goes back together. I think they are all ultra now. If I remember correctly the permatex guy came by the shop explaining how they are getting away from the shit that you would have to let cure for like 20 minutes. But if you do come across non ultra then don't buy it they say on the package OEM and gas and oil safe and stuff like that. On the Bottom end rebuild thread big red uses red rtv and says he never had a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepmonkey Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I have two tubes of black and one of copper in my toolbox and they all say "Ultra". I can't remember the last time I saw one that didn't now that I think of it. Thanks for the tips. If I can get it all back together in time for my next trip I'm going to ride the hell out of it then tear it completely down when I get back. I'd like to get the frame powdercoated and get some decent looking plastic. The ones on it now are the stocks and they look like shit! So far I've only replaced the clutch on this and that wasn't that hard. But I'm def getting a Clymers manual.......from what I've seen it looks a lot better than the Haynes I'm using. I've also got an '06 Raptor 700 that has hardly any time on it.........time to start modding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Shee Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Make sure u check the crank really well. Post pics if u have any doubts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 shit i would put your money into the shee before spending it on the craptor.... way more hp for less $$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_Shee Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepmonkey Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 The Raptor is my wives. So it just gets pretty parts.....she doesn't need to go faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troyzstang Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Son of a bitch You were doing so well... Then you went there. Do not EVER mention the work Raptor HERE. Welcome to BansheeHQ Just kidding on the Raptor part. I own two myself. Troy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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