dirtydownunder Posted June 10, 2012 Report Share Posted June 10, 2012 hahaha what a croc of shit, putting the blame on the customers. shops arnt all that great, they fuck up too. it must been the magnetic pull of the moon breaking all of these 29/lr rods. they cant be poor quality noooooo. its normal for a conrod to just break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Limit Powersports Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Right every customer leak downs there motor, checks squish, jets them perfectly and never has any detonation even though some of the failures I have read on here has to burn the plug off burn holes in the piston before they realize they are detonating there motor. Then there cranks fail and its the guy who sold its fault. Once again this is not our rods and there is a reason why we don't use them but not all failures are due to part failures. I feel for anyone that has had a premature failure if any one needs one of our cranks let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 so you dont and have never used the 29/lr rods ? cause if you did and you dont now, id really like to know as id like to pull the crank out before it does it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Limit Powersports Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 I've been threw this over and over about are rods I'm not going over it again do a search and you will see what we use and what we have tested. If your going to let some one else scare you into tearing your motor apart feel free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 ok thanx for the advice, i better replace my crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbirdshee Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 The fact is yes he has sold those rods, on his cranks, but he obviously doesn't want to admit that again. Apparently he realized later that he could use better rods so he swithched. Which is good on his part. This is all my own thoughts and opinions on this, so if I'm totally off I'm sorry. I'm not trying to offend or blame anyone. I took care of my own problem and on my own dime and never blamed the seller of the parts. I'm just trying to help some others out because obviously those rods are not good quality like we all thought we were getting since they were coming from a respected guy in the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbirdshee Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 ok thanx for the advice, i better replace my crank. Glad I could help you make that choice man. I mean honestly Andy doesn't even want to use them anymore so why should you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotax Raptor Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 This thread has gotten to personal about some good builders. I don't think any builder or parts supplier named would continue to sell substandard parts. If they found an issue with a component, it would be discontinued and they would work with you. Realistically, how many people have a true crank failure that wasn't caused by a poor setup or something unrelated to the crank. I'm sure it happens but 90% of the time the crank fails due to another problem. If you do have a crank failure, I bet you check bearings, seals, timing, fuel delivery, squish and everything else you can think of to figure out why it happened before installing a new crank. Andy, keep doing what you do. You have a shit load of people that know your quality and great business practise you provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanPNW Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 All to save a measly 75 bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Limit Powersports Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Im just trying to help clear the water a little these are not my cranks and not what I sell and there is a reason for it. With that said I dont think all the crank failures are due to part failures. I have tested the king rod and honetsly I think they have changed because the rod I tested would not bend it would break. We do not use it, because we thought there were better options out there and there is, but I wouldn't tell any one to run scared because of a few pics on the internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Limit Powersports Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 <br />The fact is yes he has sold those rods, on his cranks, but he obviously doesn't want to admit that again. Apparently he realized later that he could use better rods so he swithched. Which is good on his part. This is all my own thoughts and opinions on this, so if I'm totally off I'm sorry. I'm not trying to offend or blame anyone. I took care of my own problem and on my own dime and never blamed the seller of the parts. I'm just trying to help some others out because obviously those rods are not good quality like we all thought we were getting since they were coming from a respected guy in the business.<br /><br /><br /><br /> Excuse me sir I have been over exactly what rods I have used in the past and what rods I use now. Even released testing data that I shouldnt have as there are alot of my competitors that sell that rod and ebay ads selling them. Its has nothing to do about admitting anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandmanPNW Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 ok thanx for the advice, i better replace my crank. So you got the Original Wang Junk Rods? Better replace that garbage dude. I wouldn't risk it. I know you spent a good amount of money getting your parts to AU. Kinda sucks to hear you got burned man if that is the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 yeh man the king 29l/r rod, and now i gota spend more . oh well, shit happens i guess, i feel sorry for the guys that had one let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0chek Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 yeh man the king 29l/r rod, and now i gota spend more . oh well, shit happens i guess, i feel sorry for the guys that had one let go. mine cost me about $1500 in damages so pull those fuckers out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chariot Performance Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 Billet is no better than forged. I'm not sure where anyone has shown proof they are. I've broken both. The forged I have broken had more time than the billet and guess which was more expensive! I agree that some forged are as good as some billet. Crank manufacturing is not a secret and neither are the material choices. If you are the manufacturer of forged cranks and you also do the forging then you know what you are getting. The problem with all the banshee cranks I know of is that nobody is confident in the "forgings". It is much easier to be confident of billet cranks if you know the manufacturer. It is also easier to add or subtract a little material to make it stronger/lighter etc or heavier. Forgings will also have a higher rate of failure because of the nature of a forging and the difficulty in achieving a consistent quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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