broken crank rod, major damage..............

[mike0chek]

i am a dick because you went off in a rant without know what fucking crank you had, or why what happened.... happened.

 

a punk kid that gives reputable shops and parts bad names by pointing fingers before you even took your shoes off. i am sure you was writing this thread in your head before you was even towed back to your truck.

 

i did not give HJR a bad name so maybe you should put your shoes back on

[Phelps]

i did not give HJR a bad name so maybe you should put your shoes back on

reading skills own your ass, just like banshee motors

[mike0chek]

i love how when your wrong you just switch subjects.

Edited May 24, 2012 by mike0chek

[camatv]

ok then i read about half of this and here is a wake up call to the shops selling this crank..

 

if you have these i dont care if you assemble them in a ISO room and wear a radiation suit to do it in a total clean room ......... THESE ARE TRASH ......... it seems since those chinese assholes went even farther to try adn "copy" OEM rods to include the numbers on them and took the thicker sections out, and now they are snapping like flies.. you better junk the remainding stock you have, send them back, try to get a refund, offer a RECAL something!! but now at this point if these are sold with a HIGH HP or HIGH DOLLAR build your being cheap or not doing what i would expect from a high quality shop.. what happens inside a 2 stroke motor as its running and proiducing more than 35hp requires a HIGH quality ROD and an even higher quality big end bearing.. when i talked to denny ( the supplier for these cranks) about the "new rods" and he said the bearings are just painted silver to be more of what people are asking for i said thats it i'm not using these anymore. any decent builder half his worth understands what the bearings need to be built out of to stand up. and what the rods need to be able to handle as far as stresses. i had a WSM crank come through here adn its hard to describe but the rods felt thin as all hell adn just looked "cheap" they might be fine in a totally stock rebuild in a stocker motor hell i dont know. but they wont end up in ANY of my motors at all ever. i dont care if my "quote" is 75 bucks more because i quoted a hotrods crank and the customer goes somewhere else sorry. i just wont build junk..

 

 

 

here's the low down if you HAVE one of these cranks SELL IT send it back demand a better quality part etc..

 

if your going to build a 4 mill please use a hot rods crank OR a wiseco IF you use a wiseco make absolutely sure its within specs before you install it. if its out DEMAND another crank from whoeever you got it from

 

we as consumers and as suppliers have a responsibility to ourselves and our customers to give the best quality that we can regardless of cost, or availability. if we dont want china to keep sending this crap over here we all need to stop using it and stop supporting them or DEMAND a better quality product or some sort of supplier guarantee or lifetime warranty including related parts and supplies...

 

 

 

this is my opinion. take it as you want

[Phelps]

cam all three cranks are made in taiwan....

 

so you are telling ppl a non welded/pinned wiseco is better?

 

not all builders that sell this crank use the supplied rod.

 

also by posting what you and others did you have pms and calls flooding builders that sell them in the end.

 

M&M cranks use a different rod, most of the time upgraded bearings and is pinned and welded.

 

 

a couple of rods fail and all of a sudden they are all gonna fail. hmm

[Dicklez]

If anyone needs a hard rod, PM me....

[Infamous039]

I dont know if anyone has mention this but, I only run the Vito's Racing +4mm polished rod cranks. The rods are built very solid and thick all the way up and down(no homo). I feel they are some of the best cranks you can buy and have purchased two them and never had an issues at all with them. I would recommend them to anyone.

[sheerider11]

I dont know if anyone has mention this but, I only run the Vito's Racing +4mm polished rod cranks. The rods are built very solid and thick all the way up and down(no homo). I feel they are some of the best cranks you can buy and have purchased two them and never had an issues at all with them. I would recommend them to anyone.

I've said that from the get go. I have not had a problem

[No Limit Powersports]

Let me set a few things straight with people of concern on "MY CRANKS" as i will not speak for other peoples products just what i sell. Which I have done before but let me do it again.

 

Let me start off by saying that the gold rod with the circle K on it is manufactured by King Rod out of Taiwan. I will have to dig up the metallurgist lab from all of the rod testing that we done. The gold rod was something like a 6170 material that is extremely hard with little to no yield (yield is the ability of the metal to flex or bend and return). The hot rod rod is a 4135 metal which has a lower tensile strength but a way higher yield. We also tested to other manufacturer rods including the one we currently use which is not the gold rod.

 

The number 1 reasons cranks fail is detonation. That's not to say that you cant just have a rod failure because you can. When a rod has the ability to flex we have a little more forgiving rod when we do detonate a motor.

 

For anyone that says that "american made Hot Rod" is the only crank that will not fail, you sir my friend are ignorant. I can show you any type of failure that you want to see in a hot rod crank. To the person that says thinks that Hot Rod cranks are american made...ehhhh no sir they are imported just like the rest in fact is says made in Taiwan right on the box. As far as i know there are no american forgeries that produce a banshee crank.

 

Now for a little history lesson on what i use and why i use it. We did not start selling any products until we had thoroughly tested them. I ran the cranks i sell in my bikes for over a year. Started getting in parts assembling cranks and selling them. We had a couple of failures with the gold rods where we didn't think we should have had. Being concerned we took the motors down that we had the cranks in to check them out and the rods were different. At that point we stopped selling the gold rods did all of our testing chose a new rod and the rest is history.

 

We dont have a bike in my shop that makes under 100hp and all with the exception of my 18dm run my cranks and we have not had a failure in going on 3 years now. We even have 1 of our 10mm cranks in a 10mm dm that makes 134hp to the wheels for over 2 years now with no failures yet and thats running a big heavy 78mm piston.

 

If any body has any concerns fill free to give us a call.

 

Andy

[Dicklez]

Well said.

[maskmanLS6]

I liked the crank i got from vitos,, The rods were polished and appeared to be a decent quality. It was cheaper than the hot rods crank ( 350.00 ) and was welded and had keyed webs. I hope it proves to be money well spent because i tied up a chunk of change on my engine, Ide be sick if it failed and trashed my whole engine. There are alot of the cheaper cranks running in engines without problems and im sure there will be plenty more in the future. But as it was stated here you can also find cases where the best cranks available have done the same thing, I think if you research what you buy first you can make the best choice for your application and have a good chance at getting the best service for your money. But with anything thats produced on a large scale, there will always be a lemon from time to time.

[Dicklez]

I liked the crank i got from vitos,, The rods were polished and appeared to be a decent quality. It was cheaper than the hot rods crank ( 350.00 ) and was welded and had keyed webs. I hope it proves to be money well spent because i tied up a chunk of change on my engine, Ide be sick if it failed and trashed my whole engine. There are alot of the cheaper cranks running in engines without problems and im sure there will be plenty more in the future. But as it was stated here you can also find cases where the best cranks available have done the same thing, I think if you research what you buy first you can make the best choice for your application and have a good chance at getting the best service for your money. But with anything thats produced on a large scale, there will always be a lemon from time to time.

 

Quick question. Whats with the polished rods?? Never heard bad shit really about the cranks but whats the point in polishing the rods?

[maskmanLS6]

Quick question. Whats with the polished rods?? Never heard bad shit really about the cranks but whats the point in polishing the rods?

 

Just the thought that who ever makes them goes through the extra process to polish them and also the vitos name is cast into them. It doesnt serve any purpose but just says they go that extra step for the money you spend on it. The rods are a different shape too, They arent tapered down toward the top and appeared to be the same thickness and width all the way through. I personally dont have alot of experience with any banshee cranks because this is my first build, but so far im happy with the engine and wouldnt change anything.

[sheerider11]

Just the thought that who ever makes them goes through the extra process to polish them and also the vitos name is cast into them. It doesnt serve any purpose but just says they go that extra step for the money you spend on it. The rods are a different shape too, They arent tapered down toward the top and appeared to be the same thickness and width all the way through. I personally dont have alot of experience with any banshee cranks because this is my first build, but so far im happy with the engine and wouldnt change anything.

Here is a pic.

[maskmanLS6]

Here is a pic.

that would be the one,,so far so good with mine.