bansh_88 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I am looking to gain some width on my Banshee and am debating whether I should go with either +2 or +1 wider arms up front. I am definitely looking for better handling and stability, but at the same time, I dont want to go too wide if there isnt much of a difference (for the sake of occasionally trail-riding also). So what I am wondering is, does anyone have experience driving Banshees with both sets of wider arms? Was there a major difference between +2 and +1 wider arms? If there is a major advantage in handling with the +2 over the +1 width, I guess it would be worth it for me to go with the larger arms. But if not, then I'll go with the +1. If anyone has any experience with both widths, or have heard other opinions or feedback of both, I would be happy to hear it. Also, if anyone can post some front pics of their banshees with +2 or +1 arms installed (so that I can get a look at the width), that would be great! I may have seen a couple pics here of +2 arms in the past, but I dont think that I have ever seen anyone post pics of +1 arms on their Banshee. Any feedback and/or pics would be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot guys. Edited May 18, 2012 by bansh_88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach45 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Of your gunna trail ride a banshee you will need stock arms.... No larger, and if you plan on any power you will need a t least a +4 swinger... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous039 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 Definitley there is a gain with going to +2+1 Arms. Bike will handle much better and be more stable while riding, but dont forget to get yourself some aftermarket shocks to go along with the arms. Here's a pic of my Alba Racing +2+1 Arms with Fox Float Evol shocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach45 Posted May 18, 2012 Report Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I run +3 +1 with 4-1 offset hyper wheels -2 swing arm. 22" razr 2 up front with 20" in the rear.. I ride 90% trails. Never clipped a tree from being too wide. Edited May 18, 2012 by zach45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansh_88 Posted May 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 (edited) Of your gunna trail ride a banshee you will need stock arms.... No larger, and if you plan on any power you will need a t least a +4 swinger... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk In all honesty its very seldom that I do any trail-riding, but I do once in a while. I ride mostly wide open areas going fast and hitting jumps, whoops, and berms. So I think I could use a little more width for better handling, but not too much. Thanks. Definitley there is a gain with going to +2+1 Arms. Bike will handle much better and be more stable while riding, but dont forget to get yourself some aftermarket shocks to go along with the arms. Here's a pic of my Alba Racing +2+1 Arms with Fox Float Evol shocks Can stock shocks be used with +2 or +1 arms? I was gonna keep my stock shocks temporarily and then buy something like YFZ450 shocks or Elka shocks later down the road. Thanks. I run +3 +1 with 4-1 offset hyper wheels -2 swing arm. 22" razr 2 up front with 20" in the rear.. I ride 90% trails. Never clipped a tree from being too wide. ���� Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Wow, thats pretty wide! I would bet it handles quite well. Probably takes quite a bit of skill maneuvering it in the trails I imagine. Thanks. Thanks for the photos guys. Would be very interested in seeing pics of Banshees with +1 arms if anyone has them. Thanks. Edited May 19, 2012 by bansh_88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous039 Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Yes stock shocks will work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 lsr +2+1 and works dual rates rides like a cloud for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansh_88 Posted May 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Thanks again guys, your input and photos are greatly appreciated. I have often heard that the Banshee is not exactly the best handling ATV out there and am wondering if this is due mostly to it having a rather narrow width. Would the addition of +2 arms be enough to extinguish such claims, or does the Banshee require much more handling upgrades? I am not talking about MX grade handling, but rather just your average sport riding and casual 'play-racing' on a mild backyard track just for fun. Say for instance if Yamaha were to have offered the Banshee with +2 arms from the factory, does anyone think that this upgrade alone would be enough to silence the claims of the Banshees ill-handling concerns? Very curious of how much the width alone plays in the Banshees ill-handling claims. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 and shocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes77 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Even with +2 as the banshee won't come close to any of the new 450's in handling. The bad handling on the Banshee comes from a poor frame design. If you look at the new 450's you will notice the a-arms attatch to the frame a lot closer together. This is the main reason for the poor handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes77 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) I've got +1 arms on my quad and do nothing but trail ride. My front end is about 45.5" wide. To be honest I wish I had +2 arms. Ive never once had a problem with being to wide to fit through trees. Most 4x4 quads around here are closer to 48" so as long as I am under that I should be more then fine. I've got some pictures somewhere I will try and dig up for you. Edited May 23, 2012 by stokes77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 mine handles like a caddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes77 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) I don't really have any complaints with mine either. I've got works triple rates with remote rezies and laegers arms. Just saying its never gonna be close to a yfz450 or trx450. Edited May 23, 2012 by stokes77 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes77 Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 I run +3 +1 with 4-1 offset hyper wheels -2 swing arm. 22" razr 2 up front with 20" in the rear.. I ride 90% trails. Never clipped a tree from being too wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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