special06shee Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 i have a 4 mil stock cylinder dune/play port with boost ports, cases ported, 21cc domes, straight cuts, vforce 3, pwk 35s, +4 timing, t5s, 6"pods.(motor was built by F.A.S.T. RACING). i love the power curve that this package produces, power through out the whole curve. i do alot of hill climbs and trail ride. i love the way i can get in and out of the throttle on the hills and how it comes right back on the pipe, where i think that a cub cylinder is more of a light switch kinda power.. i ride with alot of people with all different setups from cheetas,cubs,servals. as far as performance between them all its really hard to say.. by no means do i have the most powerful bike out of the group, but it defently holds its own!! really i think the most important thing with any setup is to get the tune as close to perfect as possible.. the tune will make or break a bike in my opinion!! i know alot of people that just really dont put time in the jetting and just because they have a cub/serval or whatever it may be they think they have something special. give Jeff at F.A.S.T. a call.. super great dude to talk to and work with!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bansheeboie Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 i agree, tuning will make or break a bike. i have a 4mil stock cylinder hjr dune/play port with 34mm keihin pj,+4 timing,20cc custom cut domes by hjr,inframe sb cpi and +4 swinger. and this thing rips, smokes 450s 700 and 660s. currently running ambush tires in the rear but am switching to 10paddle haulers for a better take off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possum Posted April 29, 2012 Report Share Posted April 29, 2012 Tuning is also gearing and tires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 shearers are bad ass pipes, I had fast racing do a agressive dune port for my 4mil, I run 35mm carbs and R2 pipes, I have a +4 swingarm and it still stands up in 3 gears. I would call Jeff @fast racing, Brandon@Wildcard racing, or Kevin@HJR, talk to all 3 and decide for yourself who you want to do your port work, they are all great. Ok...Are Shearers low, mid or top end pipes. Currently I am running FMF Fatties Gold Series, pretty common pipes. From the research I have done I am coming to the conclusion the Gold Series are mid to high end pipes. I haven't been riding long enough to give solid feedback on a lot of pipes but seems as if the fatties are ok. I will be talking to all of the guys...one of them will be doing some work for me. Thanks for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Brandon and Jeff will get you both going in the right direction. Either will answer your questions and make sure that you are getting exactually what you want. Most importantly they will set you up with the best performing machine. I have no experience with HJR, but their motors run strong. It's all about dealing with who you click with. Sounds like you know you are going 4mil in the future so keep an eye out for a 4mil crank!! There have been a few forsale lately. Adam Yeah Adam I will surely be going with 4 mil route. I have seen a few cranks listed on the forum the latest one was like 250 bucks I think. I had been reading who are / are not good people to purchase stuff from. I just may go the safe route and buy one brand new. I was reading a posting, but can't find it now. A few members were singing praise to about this guy, pretty sure he is familiar on the forum. But anyway the members were discussing the attention he puts into the cranks that he sell. From trueing to double penetration welds. I can't find the thread though... .... Anyway from what I can remember I don't think Weisco true their cranks and there was something that Hot Rod didn't do to their cranks, and the guy forum members were talking about pretty much does it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 i have a 4 mil stock cylinder dune/play port with boost ports, cases ported, 21cc domes, straight cuts, vforce 3, pwk 35s, +4 timing, t5s, 6"pods.(motor was built by F.A.S.T. RACING). i love the power curve that this package produces, power through out the whole curve. i do alot of hill climbs and trail ride. i love the way i can get in and out of the throttle on the hills and how it comes right back on the pipe, where i think that a cub cylinder is more of a light switch kinda power.. i ride with alot of people with all different setups from cheetas,cubs,servals. as far as performance between them all its really hard to say.. by no means do i have the most powerful bike out of the group, but it defently holds its own!! really i think the most important thing with any setup is to get the tune as close to perfect as possible.. the tune will make or break a bike in my opinion!! i know alot of people that just really dont put time in the jetting and just because they have a cub/serval or whatever it may be they think they have something special. give Jeff at F.A.S.T. a call.. super great dude to talk to and work with!! Few Questions First: What are boost ports and what purpose do they serve? Ported Cases? Straight Cuts...Are you referring to the tranny? What are 6" PODS? Would you explain what you mean by "i love the way i can get in and out of the throttle on the hills and how it comes right back on the pipe" I can under stand the emphasis on tuning. I have seen on the RC side of racing where guys with basic engines that are tunes properly tuned put the spank to high end cars. So point taken..... ....... I still have a lot of research to do on jetting and carb syncing... But I really appreciate the feed back...Great information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Few Questions First: What are boost ports and what purpose do they serve? Ported Cases? Straight Cuts...Are you referring to the tranny? What are 6" PODS? Would you explain what you mean by "i love the way i can get in and out of the throttle on the hills and how it comes right back on the pipe" I can under stand the emphasis on tuning. I have seen on the RC side of racing where guys with basic engines that are tunes properly tuned put the spank to high end cars. So point taken..... ....... I still have a lot of research to do on jetting and carb sync....I really appreciate the feed back...Great information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) Hey Guys I really appreciate all the feedback and all the technical information. I know that most of the infomation that I have been questioning probably has been discussed before so with repetition in mind I try to ask solid questions so in the event another noobie with questions can search and find a lot of infomation in one thread...So once again thanks everyone for all the great information.... Edited April 30, 2012 by twistingixxers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebanshee98 Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Ok...Are Shearers low, mid or top end pipes. Currently I am running FMF Fatties Gold Series, pretty common pipes. From the research I have done I am coming to the conclusion the Gold Series are mid to high end pipes. I haven't been riding long enough to give solid feedback on a lot of pipes but seems as if the fatties are ok. I will be talking to all of the guys...one of them will be doing some work for me. Thanks for the advice. I just went from fmf fattys to shearers . Fmf are more of a low to mid pipe. Shearers are more mid to top end. What kind of riding are you doing? Also with shearers you have to run pods. They will not fit with the stock air box on. I did not know this at first. I don't know if it was the pods + shearers + reeds but now the bike spins the tires on the street when the band kicks in! Totally sick! Fmfs are not a bad pipe. I ran them on my 4 mil dune port for awhile and liked them. I wanted some more top end and the shearers did that and then some. They are great pipes. Like I said it depends on what you want the bike to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do-work-son Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Lot of feedback with people that have either stock cly 4 mil or cub any body got feed back that have had both or do have and witch they liked/ like and recommendation as far as the. Uh being worth the extra money ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 That is something I would like to know as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheelovesme Posted May 7, 2012 Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I am going to do a 4 mil stock cylinder and upgrade to a cub on my next rebuild... Kind of split the cost of the project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I am going to do a 4 mil stock cylinder and upgrade to a cub on my next rebuild... Kind of split the cost of the project I did some riding this weekend got the chance to chat with a guy that had a 4 mill cub motor on his bike. Anyway he said that he liked the 4 mill cub motor for drag reaching and that was about it. He said that cub motors are not trail friendly at all. He also added it performed well on sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistingixxers Posted May 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 7, 2012 I am going to do a 4 mil stock cylinder and upgrade to a cub on my next rebuild... Kind of split the cost of the project I did some riding this weekend got the chance to chat with a guy that had a 4 mill cub motor on his bike. Anyway he said that he liked the 4 mill cub motor for drag reaching and that was about it. He said that cub motors are not trail friendly at all. He also added it performed well on sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdgriff Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 I have a 4 mil serval with 35pwks, R2 pipes, +4 timing, vf3's and +6 swingarm. It makes for a great all around bike. Smooth all around power, runs great in the trails and is still alot of fun to drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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