Dinoboy707 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 hey guys, just first of all i wanna say thanks you've all been really helpful and make me feel welcome here Anyways ive been reading around and is every banshee pre-mix or do some have oil injection? and whether or not is there a pre-mix ratio chart so i dont mix too lean or too fat once i have my own shee? Thanks for any help cant wait to have one of my own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebanshee98 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 hey guys, just first of all i wanna say thanks you've all been really helpful and make me feel welcome here Anyways ive been reading around and is every banshee pre-mix or do some have oil injection? and whether or not is there a pre-mix ratio chart so i dont mix too lean or too fat once i have my own shee? Thanks for any help cant wait to have one of my own! blasters have oil injectors, banshees dont. get a ratio cup at your local dealership. i personally have always stuck with a 32:1 ratio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayAiken Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Get a Mix Cup and start mixin 32:1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdgriff Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 32:1 with mix cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cline Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 I have seen your posts the last couple days and it seems like you are trying to educate yourself to make your banshee experience as good as it can be. If you haven't already, definately check out the Tech info forum in here because it has some awsome information in it to assist you along in your learning. Another site that has some good info in it is one of the sponsors here, Mull engineering. If you want to learn some more check out their site top to bottom and you'll continue to learn. There is good info in their site about your question, and its titled, "What type of two stroke oil should I use and what ratio?" Klotz is mentioned in there which is what I use, but you'll have plenty to chose from when your time comes. Heres the direct link and its about 3/4 of the way down the page but you can benefit from reading it all. Good luck and welcome to the fun! http://mullengineering.com/rt/tech_docs.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinoboy707 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 seriously guys you are ALL amazing help especially with that last message posted ive never felt so welcome on a forums website! I try not to seem like a total dumbass which im not i know quite a bit about two strokes from my racing snowmobile and theyre a blast to tinker with whether or not something is wrong. haha all these questions are just so im running it (once i have one) as smooth as possible so i dont run into issues. Two strokes are the shit. love them. But once again thank you for that link you sent me i bookmarked it for further use. and thanks for any other help! Happy Riding men!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06specialedition Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) What I've always used. 32:1 with R-50. --------> http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/43/83/217/945/-/3231/Maxima-Quick-2-Mix-Measuring-Bottle/MAXIMA+OIL+MIX Edited March 23, 2012 by 06specialedition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticktock Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I run mine 40:1 with yamalube. I am switching to 927 so I may drop to 32:1 but after reading the Mull page I may stick 40:1. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinoboy707 Posted March 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I run mine 40:1 with yamalube. I am switching to 927 so I may drop to 32:1 but after reading the Mull page I may stick 40:1. Adam Is yamalube any different? because i plan to use amzoil dominator. and im probably not gonna experiment with whatever banshee i have right away so ill put in 32:1 just to be safe and i might lean it up a little bit through out the length i own it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 http://www.blasterforum.com/engine-13/pre-mix-ratios-myth-facts-read-14935/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 It is pretty important when talking about oil ratios, to segregate them into their oil type as well. They all will have specific optimal ranges. Amsoil will be a full synthetic product that is safer to run at leaner oil ratios. One of the biggest concerns with higher HP builds is wash down of the cylinders from liquid fuel in the intake system. In our experience, you really need a big bore or stroker to warrant any extravagant oils. 350s seem to last as long on full synthetic as semi synthetic like Yamahalube. Our pref would be Yamalube or comparable semi synthetic based on price and performance. Full synthetics however are getting cheaper to run and due to the reduced ash deposits, cleaner burn, and leaner ratio, they are certainly something to consider. You might also step away from the big Amsoil name and compare some other synthetics as well. I would usually recommend them at about 45-50:1 for most engines without issue. Brandon Mull Engineering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticktock Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 It is pretty important when talking about oil ratios, to segregate them into their oil type as well. They all will have specific optimal ranges. Amsoil will be a full synthetic product that is safer to run at leaner oil ratios. One of the biggest concerns with higher HP builds is wash down of the cylinders from liquid fuel in the intake system. In our experience, you really need a big bore or stroker to warrant any extravagant oils. 350s seem to last as long on full synthetic as semi synthetic like Yamahalube. Our pref would be Yamalube or comparable semi synthetic based on price and performance. Full synthetics however are getting cheaper to run and due to the reduced ash deposits, cleaner burn, and leaner ratio, they are certainly something to consider. You might also step away from the big Amsoil name and compare some other synthetics as well. I would usually recommend them at about 45-50:1 for most engines without issue. Brandon Mull Engineering What would be the optimum ratio and oil for a 10mil Serval/Cub, and would that ratio need to be changed for 4mil Servals/Cubs running pump Gas. If we run the better recommended oils at their optimum ratio's 40 - 45:1 we are actually saving a little bit of money this way. I understand that jetting is a big concern and the bike will have to be rejetted for a different mixture, and those that do not think saving a dollar here or there is important we could get into the economy situation on a different thread. I personally prefer to run an engine at its optimum performance, with fuel/oil ratio. Any input is appreciated. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blowit Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 What would be the optimum ratio and oil for a 10mil Serval/Cub, and would that ratio need to be changed for 4mil Servals/Cubs running pump Gas. If we run the better recommended oils at their optimum ratio's 40 - 45:1 we are actually saving a little bit of money this way. I understand that jetting is a big concern and the bike will have to be rejetted for a different mixture, and those that do not think saving a dollar here or there is important we could get into the economy situation on a different thread. I personally prefer to run an engine at its optimum performance, with fuel/oil ratio. Any input is appreciated. Adam I usually would not reach for a castor base unless using alky. I would probably run nothing but semi synthetic and 4mm at 32:1 and 10mm at about 28:1 for the first so many hours and if no scuffing, got to 32:1. I am a firm believer in feeding the oil and though I do like the synthetics, I prefer semi or castor with richer ratios. More oil will get you better ring seal and better piston skirt seal not to mention that the crank will love the most you want to give. However, like I said, synthetics offer reduced deposits, possibly cheaper to run, and great for recreation riders who don't like the stink of the 2 stroke. Plated cylinders have less friction and perform good with less oil. Softer ductile iron bores like the oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakar Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 anyone try the amsoil saber perfessional......says'' NEW SMOKELESS FORMULA'' anyway it says 100 to 1 ????? scary but it comes in these lil tear open pouchs and lil bottles that are great for slipping into a pocket for back up. im gunna mix up a lill safer like 3.5 oz to about a gallon. i believe that should make it like 40-1. i hope anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepartsman Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I run full synthetic 64:1. The bottle does say 100:1 for high performance liquid cooled engines. started this in my sleds, and everyone i ride with on the wheelers does the same 64:1. 421 serval and 465 serval inlcuded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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