DwnSouth Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I had this trouble with 2 sets of arms, diff tie rods, diff spindles! Wtf? Inside wheel flops. They don't travel at same speed when u turn the bars? Monkey wrench flying down street!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacko2000 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Is this a stock modified frame?? Using a monkey wrench to tweak your front end might be your first problem lol- IM not sure that i see the problem that your having Have you tried contacting Tim? Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camatv Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 set your camber/ caster were it needs to be, i like 1-2 degree's of lean in on top. set the toe where it needs to be. ( 0 - 1/8" toe in ) then you may have to modify the steering stop to keep the sterring from going over center.. thats what the stop is there for. IF your stop is bent forward you would need to bend it back. weld up the parts that are worn out and install a reinforcement tab. i have done this many times to frames.. its a common problem if the stem dosent hit the stop like it should might be time to make a few phone calls.. i have had to modify stuff like that more then one time to get it to work like i think it should. maybe i'm just to picky or like a bike that i feel is "safe" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Lol! The monkey wrench was just for relieving frustration not using it on my bike!! Lol... this is a stock frame. Bone stock frame just lightened. As far as the stop I already have a nut welded on to limit for my metal techs. The wheels don't turn in sync is the issue. ( I think ) I already can't turn worth a shit. The outside wheel barely turns, the inside wheel turn too much. Both directions same thing. I'm thinking this steering stem isn't made right at the bottom? Holes drilled in wrong spot for the tie rods?? I don't know.... I went get monkey wrench from neighbors yard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I had same trouble with these arms.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwriter Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 The steering arms on those spindles look really short. If they're shorter than stock, that would make the wheels turn too sharp. Also make sure the tie rods are close to the same length. X2 on repairing the steering stop. I've done a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Check this out... See what I'm sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 the pivot point on the spindle is too short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 the pivot point on the spindle is too short. So cut those off and weld some stock lengths on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 So cut those off and weld some stock lengths on? yes where the tie rod meets the spindle. that point needs to be moved back. further away from the spindle. stock is like 3 inches. your looks really close to the spindle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Ahhh there goes the powder coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phelps Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 fit, function then beauty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 If you crakkas make me cut and weld on these spindles and it don't work I'm gonna send y'all an email with a bomb in it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRed350x Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Check this out... See what I'm sayin You do want the inside tire to turn at a slightly tighter angle than the outside tire. Think about it, the inside tire is turning on a tighter radius circle than the outside tire. The over-steer is caused by your spindles. A good starting point is that you want the distance from your KPI line at the spindle to the tie rod mounting point to be the same as the distance from the center-line of your steering shaft to the tie-rod mounting point. Increasing or decreasing this distance will effectively speed up or slow down the steering action, and increase or reduce the amount of force required to steer the bike. I would seriously suggest you do some reading on steering geometry before you go cutting and welding anything anywhere on your spindles, or steering stem. - Jared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwnSouth Posted January 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 Simple but effective test. The wheel movement is much less agressive with a longer arm. If I measure the stock length and duplicate it from center to center problem solved. I will read up though big red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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