dirtydownunder Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 clymers say to check the secondary, you test from the terminal to the corresponding plug wire, 1) i get no reading. 2) this is not how you test the secondary anyway. tho when i test both plug wires (what i thought the correct way to check the secondary was), i get the correct reading (out of spec in this case) and with the primary, has anyone tested a coil thats been within spec ?, my stocker and dyna coil all are way outa range (stock, .8 ohm) (dyna 1. ohm) ( spec is .28 - .38) the secondary on my dyna is 10.1** ohm (spec is 4,700-7,100ohm) so yah tis fuxord the stock coil is within spec at 5.6** ohm, but primary is still too high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 hey andy...i know there is a problem with one of the test procedures in the clymers manuals....i just think of which one it is. haha. i may spend a little bit of time goofin around on my bike a little later in the garage....so if you want i could ohm out my coil and whatnot for you to compare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90Bansheedude Posted September 17, 2011 Report Share Posted September 17, 2011 Ive tested other stuff that has been way out of range (non banshee) and it still works. Its probably a good guideline to have something to compare too though. I would say if you aren't having a problem and its not going to create a problem, then dont worry about it. If you are, then you may have found the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 cheers jereme, that would be good man. !! nutwood is gonna test his dyna coil for me too, so i can compare that coil. i have a plug cap that doesnt even register on the meter, so thats another thing. if my coil is stuffed and the plug cap, that means im going through caps and coils once a year ?. this is all for chasing a stutter under load at around 5-6000rpm only wide open throttle in a high gear (4,5,6) bike runs like a champ every where else. i know what your saying bansheedude, that why i thought id ask if there was a "real world" spec. but ive found with ignition, out of spec usually results in failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 first thing- make sure you have a good battery in your dmm and a good zero adjust to go off of. cap reading nothing is bad, regardless. the coil sparks series from pne plug to the other, so it will run just fine if you get a good reading on the secondary from one coil to the next. i don't quite remember if it ever changed over the years, but the secondary should be split mid-point to ground terminal for a redundancy, in case the spark should fail on one side, then the other side will still spark. remember that the caps add 5k when measuring. as for the dyna coil- check the dyna site for specs. it will not be the same as stock, or it would just be another stock coil. the windings are different, hence the different reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKheathen Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 oh, also, the readings are at a certain temperature, and will change when it is hotter or colder. also, if you get the secondary to primary reading, the lower reading is going to be ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted September 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 hey ak. i sent dyna an email about primary and secondary resistance specs a few days ago. just waiting for an email back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry's Shee Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 oh, also, the readings are at a certain temperature, and will change when it is hotter or colder. also, if you get the secondary to primary reading, the lower reading is going to be ground. Wish they had a chart or something to calculate this. All I know it would be size and length of given wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 shit....sorry andy i didn't get a chance to yet.....pops has been in the hospital so its taking up a ton of my time....ill try to hop in the garage and ohm that shit out for you tomorrow buddy.....sorry again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 yeh, tests should be done at around 20c / 68f. dont worry about it jereme, bikes arnt important. be with ya pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jereme6655 Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Hey andy....just got into the garage for a few.... I ohmed out my primary originally at .8 (meter was set at 200) but after I zeroed it out I got .3 That being said I couldn't get the secondary to show anything but my bike does run. I know the clymers manual does give wrong info on how to test something electrical but I ant remember whic one it was that they screwed up on.....hope this helps.....let me know if there is something else you need me to test or a different way than the clymers says.... Jereme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 ah cool as jereme, thanx heaps for that. with the secondary, you test between both plug leads. but its ok, ill borrow some ones coil and buy some new caps and try . im waiting on dyna to send me their coil specs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted September 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 from dyna. Specifications Primary Resistance: 0.5 ohms Primary Inductance: 3.7 mH Secondary Resistance: 11.8K ohms Secondary Inductance: 28 H Secondary Available Voltage (unloaded): 40 kV Spark Energy: 50 mJ Secondary Available Voltage (loaded): 36 kV* Secondary Current: 60 mA Overall Dimensions: 4.2" x 2.3" x 1.6" Approx. Weight: 9.8 oz looks like its broke to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtydownunder Posted September 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 UPDATE UPDATE !!!! new coil, leads, plug caps and plugs. still fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Herbie- Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 clymers wrong, test plug cap to plug cap. what's the problem no spark? have you tested your stator, wiring harness & CDI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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